questionszen/buckyballs prohibited? have you seen this…


1. Don't be surprised if this question disappears. Woot has been pretty strict on these products not being sold or discussed since the whole thing started.
2. This is pretty ridiculous. Maybe make them only be able to be sold to 18+ but removing them from the market altogether is just wrong.


It is, especially considering they'd just be hurting a specific company - not removing neodymium magnets from the market entirely.

Even if the toys are pulled all together, if kids feel the urge to eat magnets eBay will still be there to feed them.
Also let me say: We had magnets when I was a kid too, and we were smart enough to never eat more than 1 at a time.


@drchops: LOL. Yes. Thank you for this.

Seriously parents... Take some responsibility...


It's about time! Buckyballs have been far too tasty and far too dangerous for too long! Make these Buckyball corporate fat cats pay for making a product that could be swallowed.


Comment added. Not sure if this topic is still up, though.


Don't take it too personally: You know full well that there are some really stupid and irresponsible parents out there. That the proposal tries to do something about it in no way implies that you are one of the stupid or irresponsible parents - only that they exist, and we all know they do.

So, about the kids: Should innocent children be sentenced to painful horrible medical problems and possible death from septic infection just because they had the misfortune of being born to idiots?

There are two solutions: Punish the kids of smart parents by taking away cool toys due to the existence of stupid parents; or make a law that says any injury to a child caused by idiotic parenting must also be delivered upon the parent. Parents would be less likely to let their kids swallow multiple magnets if the punishment was for the parents to be force fed several magnets, one at a time, over a period of a couple hours. Unfortunately, the 2nd solution is unlikely so we're stuck with the first.


I didn't think we could discuss bucky balls.


The Buckyball CEO is an a-hole. So, frankly, if this is going to shut down his business, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

That's just karma.


This proposal is about all of the strong small magnets in general, I just named the 2 brands I'm most familiar with. If naming the particular brands is an issue, I'd have no objection to a re-word of the question. Not trying to stir up trouble if there's some issue between them and Woot for whatever reason.

Yes, some parents are stupid beyond belief. I'm sure some of them have children who've been horribly injured by lawn mowers, blenders, stove tops, scissors, and so forth. Does that mean I and the rest of responsible parents in this country should be prohibited from owning these items? Where do we draw the line? If it's at things I don't really need that are recreational items, better be prepared to give up those back yard trampolines, hot tubs, and scores of other "fun" items as well.


@caisburning: This proposal affects much more than buckyballs. It will also ban Zen Magnets, the company that Buckyballs CEO attacked in the first place. I'll be severely disappointed if WOOT censors a mere discussion about a product that the government wants to ban. It seems woot forums have become more walled-up ever since Amazon took over.


Once again the complete lack of consistency on this site is exposed. I don't think I've seen a b-ball question survive this long so the censorship is completely dependent on who is working.

For the record, I think the ban of the products (and the discussion) is completely silly. I've heard stories of unattended children swallowing household cleaners and dying from it but there's no legislation to ban bleach, or antifreeze, or rat poison or any of the millions of products that are dangerous.

Kids will always find dangerous products to eat and we (unfortunately) can't regulate who gets to be a parent. That's a piece of legislation I would completely support!


@ohcheri: The apparent lack of consistency usually stems from internal discussions re-evaluating issues as they come up. We live in a pretty fast-paced world and that frequently requires changing to adapt. In this case, we decided that this is a valid consumer issue and presents no potential danger to the community -- i.e., if they are actually unsafe, you can't buy them from this link.

Personally, I think the more information out there about the safety of consumer products, the better.


When these were first out I bought 6 sets for stocking stuffers for the older kids. A someday landing in jail nephew stole them all. Guess I'm glad now.


The biggest problem:

"In the mid-2000s, construction toys for children featuring small, powerful magnets were introduced into the toy market."

Both of these items are not toys for children. They are for adults and they happen to be shiny so I guess that is why children go for them. If something is not made for children, then it is the job of the parents, not the government, to keep it away from them. Children grow up, so there is no reason why we should have to baby proof the world because parents are not doing their job and taking responsibility. Children also ate the Tide packets because they thought it looked like candy but the calls to ban that have died down. Just because a product is fun or engaging does not mean it is meant for children. This is a parents' matter, not a federal one.


Another brillant quote:

"It is unlikely that even strengthened warnings would substantially reduce the incidence of magnet ingestions. This is particularly true for incidents involving older children and adolescents. Moreover, children who are old enough to understand the warnings still may not abide by them."

Translation: People are really frieking stupid and we need to save them from themselves. Also, we have to play to the dumbest denominator, instead of assuming the intelligence of the average person, which is the identified standard in court cases or decades.Apparently in the eyes of the law, a reasonable rational person is the standard but here the standard is the dumbest person that they can find that will ignore all written warnings and product attributes to swallow the magnets. God help us all if that standard is ever applied to poison companies or in any product liability suit.