questionsis a deal on ebay that's too good to be true a…

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That's frigging cheap! I would hesitate to buy it though....

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The good thing is the seller does deal with Paypal only, so if something doesn't work out, Paypal is very good about getting you your money back.

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@kd1357: Unless there is no money in their account or available on their backup funding source......

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@jsimsace: yeah me too thats why im asking. =/ sigh decisions.

@kd1357: yeah but are you guaranteed to get your money back? dude on slick deals said this

"1. sell small $$ items to get feedback ($7 t-shirts in this case)
2. obtain several hundred ++ feedback
3. ctrl+c ctrl+v pictures/info about $150 product
4. sell $150 product for $40 in unlimited quantity and with 3 week shipping time
5. transfer all money from paypal asap since you account is not on hold, yet.
6. ???
7. profit

400 sold @ $40 = $16k, good business! all at the expense of ebay sellers/paypal users"

He makes a valid point but wouldn't paypal/ebay still give you your money back and just pursue him?

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@jsimsace: So if paypal can't draw the money from them they won't refund you? Have you tested this or verified or just assumed. Because it makes sense but would also make some angry users I'd imagine. Though they couldn't keep taking hits.. bahhhh I dunno enough to say either way.

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Thanks for the link. I bought one. Buyer Protection is automatic and eBay WILL refund if it is a scam. I also just used some of my my eBay bucks.

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It's probably a knockoff or refurb. Or hot. But if you're ok with any or all of those, @kd1357 is right -- paypal is pretty good at refunding your money. Though it's been years since I've made a claim.

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Definitely a scam and paypal can not protect you if this guy cleans his account out before they shut him down.

I know this because it happened to me. The guy was transferring the money out as he made sales and when paypal finally took action there was only enough money recovered to give partial refunds. I lost about 60% of what I paid.

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@samstag: I just spoke with a Tracy at paypal and she said even if they take all their money out and close their account they will refund me. I'm calling ebay now.

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Just got off the phone with Clarice at ebay and she too agreed even if their account is closed and theres no money for them to draw from they will supposely refund me. Eh it's only $69 for a psp vita.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PS-Vita-WiFi-Console-Call-Duty-Black-Ops-Declassified-4GB-Memory-Card-/190782815830#rpdId

Guess I'm buying one. lol

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@dravack: Maybe they've changed their policy. It was a couple of years ago that it happened to me but at the time I thought I was 100% protected.

Good luck and I hope you get your refund promptly.

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In the earlier days, before ebay acquired paypal, I had a few occasions where the account wasn't able to refund immediately, but would do so when funds became available. That was right after gravity stopped working. YMMV now in the new system, but I can hold out for a more solid deal. :)

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@samstag: Thanks lol either way Jokes on ebay since like $10 of it is their money love them ebay bucks.

Also you guys think I should flag this to see about getting links removed in case it is a scam... okay lets face it since it probably is a scam? lol

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"If we find an item not received case in the buyer's favor, eBay will refund the full cost of the item (including any applicable sales tax) and original shipping to the buyer"

It is fairly straight forward.

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Refund issues aside, this seller has an interesting eBay history. He's been on eBay since 9/2010. The first half of his feedback, give or take, is from the sale of really cheap (mostly under $2) jewelry. The more recent half of his feedback is from the sale of men's t-shirts, priced $3-9.

Suddenly he's selling 460+ hard drives, which he's hawking on at least three other deal-a-day sites for $40 each and which seem to sell anywhere else for over $300.

I hope those of you who buy one drop back here to let us know how the sale went.

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@magic cave: I will. It seems to me a shot worth taking so I bought one. As a high end/volume seller on eBay, the company would NEVER take a chance of not refunding my money if it is a scam. Buyer Protection in a case like that is 100%. Anyone that says otherwise is mistaken. Even if I am wrong, I paid using only a portion of my eBay bucks.

Now if I can only remember to do it 4-8 weeks from now.

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if you have to phrase a question like that, you've already answered it for yourself.

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Not this again! This happened last year too:

http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/f9a17a5a-4fa3-4ae4-81a5-495c9e079246/my-book-3tb-external-hard-drive-3-0usb#66

In the end it was a scam... people did get their money back, but they had to wait for it.

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I would say it is too good to be true. Just by looking at the revisions alone which is waaaay too much IMO.

Plus the fact that the guy is only selling three things, a bit flag raiser to me.. until you check the items sold on them in which one went for 500+ and the other 100+ which is insane. Plus the fact that he's selling an items that is worth $200+.

Then I looked at the previous sales here and there seems to be a trend. The user has only sold some clothes and many bracelets. The user has never sold any electronics.

In my opinion, the account was either hijacked or sold by the past owner.

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@joshobra: Oh Gawd. You need to get some sleep. Grammar errors everywhere!

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A 4 TB USB 3 is $189.99 from Amazon, or $179.99 at some Costco locations. Even if you do get the device for $39, if it is stolen property you may loose it if the customs or the police gets involved.

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I do appreciate that the two feedbacks left on the expensive electronics, one even saying how fast the shipment, are from today. I suppose the buyers must live next door from the seller. Clever.

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I love that each of the 3 items being sold always have 8 left lol.. Set a program to restock to 8 each time 1 is sold to look like they will sell out soon?

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I'd say it's a 95% chance it's some sort of scam. Anything from no product ever shipping to stolen product to FLOOD DAMAGED product.

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"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

Also, the seller has NO other items for sale.

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@joshobra: "In my opinion, the account was either hijacked or sold by the past owner."

That would be my guess as well.

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I've seen some of these scams before... the HDD shells are filled with a small USB memory stick that reports it's 4 TB, but in reality it's like 128 MB. Or... They just steal your money.

Here's one such scam:
http://micgadget.com/12060/russian-man-gets-fooled-into-buying-128mb-external-hard-drive-in-china/

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Entirely possible. I was nearly scammed of 200 usd via eBay about a month ago by someone who had stolen another person's eBay acct. luckily, PayPal/ eBay knew what was up before I did and managed to get my money back after a matter of about 2 weeks. Though this is the only time I can think of where PayPal hasn't tried to screw me over in some way..

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Why would you think this is anything other than a scam?

If you were to actually send this person money you would probably receive one of the following - a brick, an empty box, a Chinese coin, or nothing at all.

Sure, you would probably get your money back from PayPal, but why even take a chance that you may not?

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FYI I purchased a drive >10 ago and had issues with it a few months later, under warranty. I was not able to get the warranty resolved non US sales only, too late for refund.

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Counterfeit most likely. They usually work like the original but not for long.

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@magic cave: I simply received my money back. People that said it would not happen are wrong. I took a chance and am none the worse for taking it. This is how it is promised to work and it does. The following is my message from eBay.

Hi scmorriea,

Good news! We issued you a full refund of $39.98 on Jan 23, 2013. The refund includes the purchase price plus original shipping and has been credited to your PayPal account. Please log in to PayPal and view the History page if you don't see it in your PayPal balance.

Decision:
This case has been decided in your favor.

Comments:
We didn't receive valid tracking information from the seller. We're sorry you had a problem with your purchase, and we're issuing you a refund for this case.

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@90mcg112: Why take the chance? You take the chance in case it is real. There is nothing to lose if you do not need the $40 for a couple weeks.

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@morriea: I'm glad to hear that you received a full refund, and in a wierd sort of way, I'm glad to know it was a scam. (The general common-sense ways to make such a determination worked well.)

Many thanks for reporting back to us and for confirming that eBay/Paypal do indeed follow through on their buyer protectin guarantees.

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@morriea: Same here got all my money back but with one twist. Seller did upload tacking and even though ebay said it wasn't valid I went and checked it on China post tracking ems BS thing (and on usps) and it seems to valid for a package that was accepted yesterday. Dude so wait to send me my box of rocks till after i complained lol. I'll post back if I actually get a box of rocks or what.

For those of us who got tracking try yours out and see what pulls up.

http://track-chinapost.com/starteub.php

also works here

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

EDIT:
Status of Your Item: Acceptance
Date & Time: January 28, 2013, 5:03 pm
Location: CHINA PEOPLES REP
Features: Registered Mail™

Also I'm curious whats everyone's tracking number to see if we got the same numbers?

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@dravack: I received a tracking number also, but it has reverted to "not responding". It is interesting to see how the feedback profile on this seller has gone plummeting and they are closed down. The listing in my Purchase History now reads:

"This listing was removed by eBay. If you already paid for the item, we recommend that you wait 10 days from the expected delivery date to see if the item arrives. If you did not pay,you are no longer obligated to pay for this item. If you have a problem with the purchase, you can resolve the problem by filing a claim through our resolution center."

I am so confused by the previous posters that said that we would not get our money back. They seem to be grossly misinformed and are simply passing on hearsay or worse, making things up.

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Woot looks like I'm getting some Chinese rocks for free! lol Origin Post is Preparing Shipment.. If dude seriously mailed me a playstation vita. I'd love him lol.

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Woot updated!

Depart USPS Sort Facility
February 05, 2013

XD I'll be surprised in a day or two!