Anyone hire a plumber lately? I was quoted $180 for the first half hour....
this is the second time the installers came to deliver my new dishwasher, first disappointment was the new floor installed 1/2 inch in front making removal impossible until I loosened and lifted up the counter top. Got that done, now I need a new shut off valve because mine is leaking, and thanks for letting me know this before the water wrecked the ceiling below... but the price of plumbers is off the charts.... $180 first half hour and $90 for every half hour after that... Is this for real?
Wow thanks for this. I was wondering if any one would know of any good plumbers. If you know of one please let me know.Thanks for any suggestion. http://www.alwaysplumbing.ca/plumbing
A 24hour plumber will charge more especially when he has to come to your house at 2am. He charges for fast service, and since other plumbers are not willing to show up after hours, the 24hour plumber can charge what ever he wants. Their rate also depends on the distance they have to travel from their shop. If he lives an hour away from you that is already $65-100 drive just to your house. Granted most decent plumbers will only charge you for that drive time if they do the work. So if it takes him half hour to get to your house and he does 30 min of work he will charge you his rate 1h + the parts.
@w00tgurl: I say all of that realizing that I take my life in my own hands when I do electrical work. But it's just such a pain to shut the house down just to do something that will only take a few minutes if I leave it on.
Also, I too do everything in my house and those DIY books have saved my bacon on many occasions.
If word-of-mouth doesn't find you someone good, call the guys in the phonebook/paper with individual names, not companies. No/lower overhead, and usually they have more experience than the people the companies are turning loose. Roto-rooter doesn't have "real" plumbers for all jobs. They have kids ride along with another "rooter" for a few weeks, then the company turns them loose.
You'll almost always get better prices, and better service from "Joe Schmoe, Master Plumber" listings.
(advice MY plumber gave me last week. When he came out from 8-11pm to use the "rooter" thing to remove a years worth of root bundles clogging my line to the sewer... and charged me $120 cash, and a bottle of Iced Tea.)
@magic cave: ...and to the displacement of jobs overseas.
I gotta second @stupimlico on the solder vs. weld (for copper pipes) and using sharkbite, as well. I installed a water heater recently with sharkbite fittings on PEX pipes, but it works on copper and PVC as well. Be sure you find the house cutoff valve before you start cutting! ;-)
@stupimlico: the electrician tried to explain i could do it myself, and even showed me how but i was so not interested. i didn't even want him to replace them with the electric live like that, but he knew what he was doing i guess. i expected him to crisp up in front of my eyes!
i can also vouch for Sharkbite fittings, those work well and home depot sells them too. for regular copper fittings they also sell a small propane torch with nifty "plumber's kit" for about $25. i use that
Might be worth signing up for Angie's List if available in your area.
Also, if you have time, patience, and are willing to learn (and make mistakes) as you go, a lot of small plumbing jobs can be DIY and save you big $$$. Google the problem, pick up a basic how-to book, then go to your local plumbing supply place for tools, supplies and much better advice than you'll get at the big box store. New shut-offs are fairly easy to install: shut off water, cut pipe, smooth/clean pipe with emery paper, clamp on compression fitting with wrench, test for leaks, done.
ETA: OK I was slow, others have already covered the same ground.
@w00tgurl: replacing breakers in a live panel is fun! seriously :-)
@almirar: I would think a handy man would be much cheaper. Most other plumbers would be much cheaper.
Might they have said it needed to be soldered, instead of welded? If you did need a new shut off valve soldered on then there is a good chance your pipes are copper and if they are copper then there should be a good selection of push fittings at a lowes, home depot or plumbing supply place somewhere near you. These fittings only require you to cut the pipe squarely, clean the pipe of solder or dirt and push the fitting/valve onto the pipe. The fittings are a little bit on the expensive side(as far as fittings go) but they would only be a fraction of the cost of a plumber at the rate you were quoted. Here's a link, this brand is sold at the Lowe's where I live. http://www.sharkbite.com/usa/
Obviously, I would only suggest something like this for someone who felt comfortable doing so.
Best of luck to you.
@almirar: i think handimen are cheaper, but they're also people that do a little bit of everything. you can call a few of them and ask about replacing a shutoff valve and ask about rates, for next time.
i know how you feel though, i paid an electrician big bucks to replace my circuit breakers and he did it while the main electricity going into the breaker box was still live. one thing i'm NOT doing is replacing my own circuit breakers!
@w00tgurl: I usually do my own, but the installers said it needed to be welded on, and that's beyond my ability... but he did suggest a handiman instead of a plumber, is that cheaper?
I would agree that $180 for half an hour seems crazy-high! Check something like Angie's List, and Yelp. As others suggested, ask around. I live in a pretty expensive area, and recently needed my toilet re-plumbed. That took over half an hour, and still was only $98, including parts. I think my boss also recently got their sink snaked for a blockage, and it was similar, about $100 (not the same plumber, either). Ask around and do your research. Good luck!
that's why i do my own, unless it's stuff i can't control since i live in a building. pick up a home improvement 101 book from home depot, some supplies like pipes, fittings, etc and try some preventative maintenance
or if you just don't want to, once you find a plumber you trust from references, get some of those issues taken care of all at once before the premium rates on the weekends and at night. and before you absolutely have to get stuff done, because by then beggars can't be choosers. especially check every shutoff valve, sprinkle some baby powder and stick a flashlight around it to see if you have leakage
and get some leakfrogs or a similar leak warning gadget, to warn you of leaks earlier
Wow... I need to tell my brother in law who is a master plumber that he is undercharging. His rates start at $75 for the first hour and $65 after that.
I had a plumber come out on New Year's Eve day to change a zone valve motor on my boiler. Minimum one-hour labor charge (on overtime) was $89.25 plus parts. He was here around a half hour.
And damn, Honeywell, you are sure proud of your repair parts!
my dad is a retired plumber and he still gets $100 just to start a job
The best thing you can do is what @moosezilla suggested... ask everyone you know if they can recommend a good, yet cheap, plumber. I found one that way. Very reasonable. Word of mouth really does work. The same people will tell you who NOT to call, too. Some of us learned the hard way. ;-)
Check Yelp.com for reviews before deciding on a plumber but the price is not out of line (for where I live) and it's not a job you want to hand to the lowest bidder.
I had to have a blocked kitchen drain worked on three weeks ago. The company sent two plumbers, one of whom had to clamber up onto the roof to snake a pipe. They double checked our bathroom to make sure there was no other blockage (it's an old house with old plumbing), recommended we consider having our septic tank pumped out (not a service they provide), and were here almost exactly an hour.
Final bill: $98.00.
@mtm2: Good to know you recognize that unions contributed greatly to the growth of the middle class!
AAAAahhhhh, the joy of unions.
got any friends in the area that are homeowners? ask them. being that it is saturday night well after 5pm. you are gonna get a high quote.
Every plumber that I've encountered for the past 5 years has used what they claim to be a standardized book of rates for specific jobs, rather than hourly. Those rates always seemed a bit high, but comparing them to your quote, it's not bad. Get more quotes.
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