questionswhat kind of lights should i get for my kitchen?

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Just put as much lighting in as you possibly can-- you're unlikely to regret it later and almost certain to be glad. LED is expensive at first, but way cheaper in the long run. Halogen makes nice looking light, but it does run hot and consumes a lot of electricity. I'm starting to see LED bulbs designed to replace halogens, and that stuff is almost certain to get cheaper as time goes by. Maybe that will be the way to go. Just make sure you have lots of them.

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@sstaylor: The problem I'm having is the celling is pitched so one track I saw with 6 lights won't work. I'm looking at assembling tracks and lights and using that. I just can't afford really expensive lighting and the only time I turn the lights on in the kitchen is early in the morning or late at night. I also have a ceiling fan with a dome light in there. You are right about the LED. I don't like CFL because of he mercury.

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Lots and lots of Lasers with plenty of mirrors to reflect them everywhere. Just kidding. I noticed that halogen bulbs are back. A place that rhymes with mall fart is selling 4packs for around $5 if you are unwilling to shell out the bucks for LED"s. The halogens are slightly better energy wise than normal light bulbs. CFL bulbs suck the big one IMHO.

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@mybestuser1: everything I've been reading about halogen is negative from heat to utility bills. But that isn't the issue. I don't know what to use on the sloped ceiling. Premade tracks with 6 lights cannot be used on sloped ceilings. I'm wondering if track lighting that you assemble would work. I'm looking at eyeball lights but that is going to get expensive. So what can I get on a budget AKA inexpensive.

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My solution might not be practical for you or something that you would want. I'm a do-it-yourself kinda guy and would install decorative beams across the ceiling to take care of the vaulted ceiling problem. Build them to match your cabinets, install track lighting on them. Problem solved.

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@ojulius: I have thought about doing something similar that would blend with the ceiling. I have to talk to my contractor. I found some flexible rails with flexible incandescent lights. Have to do more research. Pot lights is an option. Only need 2 wired. Haven't even started and I have problems. Haha. BTW. MY cabinets are going to be painted fuschia!

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Home Depot has fake beams but they are expensive. A good carpenter could put some together using 1x4, 1x6, or 1x8 depending on the size you would want. Just build a box with them to span the distance. Not sure what size your kitchen is. Paint them fuschia and set some potted plants on top of them. Wiring could be run inside the beam if necessary.

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Can't quite picture how it looks (can you upload a pic to like imgur.com and post it here?), but if it's flexiblility with the ceiling elevation that you need, look at this one:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80230653/

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I'm with @narfcake. It's hard to imagine what it looks like even with your description. I can pass on some general advice based on what we did with our kitchen lights.

We recently did a remodel and changed out the old fluorescent tubes for recessed LED lighting. If you go with LED you will need more lights rather than less. Why? LEDs are directional lighting rather than ambient lighting. Good for flashlights, generally bad for lighting rooms. Even with a diffuser that scatters light around the room, you will need more lights.

The great thing about LEDs is that they can be used in any application incandescents can be used in: can be dimmed, have a long-life, consistent color temp, are energy efficient, etc.

Good luck.

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Here's another Ikea fixture to consider. with 5 spots and the two end lights on swivel arms. Also halogen, but only $50 (or $80 shipped from Amazon) so it wouldn't be a major outlay until you figure out the optimal lighting setup. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20230769/

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Under-cabinet lighting is awesome and if you've already got an overhead light for general lighting purposes that's the way I'd go. Ikea sells some excellent kits that are super easy to put together.

I had a ton of those overhead halogen spots when I lived in Germany and I absolutely hated them. They were really hot, expensive, and threw shadows all over the place, especially around the edges where the light ended. But your mileage may vary.

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@narfcake:

There is a slope in the ceiling which I'm told means I can't use one like the Ikea. This is the one I was thinking of getting, I have $75 in gift cards to Lowes from Viggle so I want to get from there.

http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&productId=3734243&cId=detail

I think I"m just going to put in recessed eyeball The one over the sink is fine. The other one, which is stupid, I'll move it over the stove.

I hate lights, just need them to function for getting food in the a.m. and dinner at night. The operative word is CHEAP!!

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@zuiquan: Interesting option for the future. Right now I have to paint and get rid of lights. I got a ceiling fan for that ugly chandelier.

Got this in brushed metal and maple.

http://www.amazon.com/Westinghouse-Lighting-7226100-Single-Light-Six-Blade/dp/B004SCFBXC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370790281&sr=8-2&keywords=westinghouse+turbo+ceiling+fan

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@minkeygirl7: That is a crazy color. But I like it.

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@minkeygirl7: Gosh -- it all matches your avatar! How cool! Seriously, though, I think the colors are terrific.

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@magic cave: Thanks Magic and zuiquan! I saw that and said "OMG That's it!. An artist friend of mine said green is complementary to those colors so I'm using a blue based green for the rest of the LR and hall but haven't decided on the color yet.

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@minkeygirl7: Why wouldn't the one I suggested work? It's cable mounted - it can go anywhere.

The thing is, just because the ceiling is vaulted doesn't mean that a track ceiling fixture, including the one you linked, cannot be installed. It's perfectly fine to install track lighting at an angle, and the individual heads can angle/rotate to point light where needed. Keep in mind that the halogen bulbs can always be replaced with LED bulbs, so I wouldn't place too much on that aspect right now.

Your call on whether to go recessed or just replace the fixture over the sink with a flush mounted one. That one can work either way IMHO, though if you're going with one like the one you linked, I feel keeping it flush mounted would make more sense than to have a mix of flush and recessed.

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@narfcake: For some reason I missed that one narfcake. It is pretty cool, and out of stock at my local Ikea. I'm leaning away from halogen. I just won't spend that kind of money on LED.

I think, because I just don't care that much, I'll get recessed unless my contractor has some other ideas. He was going to take out that one in the weird place so I'll have him move it over to the stove. Will give me more light than I have now.

It shouldn't be this hard but thanks every.

BTW, I am not getting emails when someone adds a comment. Any thoughts?

Also if anyone wants the paint colors let me know. I found pretty dead on matches at Home Depot.

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@minkeygirl7: Those old lights really are placed oddly. I personally prefer the look of recessed lighting, but I'm not sure it will complement the fan/light fixture already in place since you plan on keeping it. I'm also not sure if you need something as extensive as track lighting for that kitchen. You just need a light over the stove, the sink, opposite the stove and maybe one in between the sink and the fan.

Something occurs after looking at the pic: putting fluorescent tube lights (or LED tube lights, which are really expensive) on top of the cabinets. The pitched ceiling will help more light bounce around and escape the ceiling area. It also makes the room look a little bigger if the light travels up and out rather than down.

As for the paint: I think because you are choosing two very bright colors for the cabinets, you might be better off going for a white/off-white wall paint. Probably nothing darker than swiss coffee. It might get too busy with 3 different bright colors.

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@minkeygirl7: Also, you can manually subscribe to the thread (underneath the actual question) or go to your account page and check the box regarding local and deals mentions.

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Having fluorescent tubes on top of the cabinets occurred to me too. It would give you lots of good indirect light. I would do this in addition to any other lights you install. I love a well-lit kitchen.

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@minkeygirl7: The fixture you posted is not a track light. @narfcake is correct, feel free to use it or similar items all you want.
Also, you were told incorrectly. True actual track lights (like this) can absolutely be installed on a sloped ceiling with a proper adapter. (the supports that suspend the track from the ceiling just need to swivel)

Over the sink, I'd either go with a can. Can lights are more design friendly.

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@j5: Sorry I didn't get back. Somewhere in the middle of this I stopped getting email notices even though it is checked. I bought a ceiling fan with brushed nickel trim and maple blades. I think recessed will be fine. White so they blend into the ceiling.

The wall color is going to be a light cream, called Martha Stewart Living PIP. It's painted on the right side of the window and on the jam. All the trim throughout is going to be that color for continuity. An artist friend said green is complimentary to the kitchen colors so that will be in LR and hall. Not sure of color, more jade.

Starts this week, i'll keep you posted. Now to figure out how to get notifications.

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I don't quite understand why you couldn't use (most) track lighting with a pitched ceiling. The fixtures we have lock on the track, and can be angled in any direction. I've also seen track lighting used on walls, angled ceilings, even "upside down" with the lights pointing up (e.g. on a display case) so orientation shouldn't matter.

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@tsfisch: As I said, someone commented on the page of the fixture that it could not be mounted on a slope ceiling. But also, based on heat put off, and budget, I'm going to get recessed.

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We're just about to the point of "signing on the dotted line" for a major kitchen rebuild. I haven't totally figured out our lighting, but I plan on most likely using recessed cans (4" most likely) for the general lighting. That would replace the track lighting that's there now, which I put in 10 years ago as a "temporary" solution when we bought the house and the kitchen had VERY poor lighting.

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I would say LED. A lot of people buy CFL still for some reason but I am pretty sure LED outperforms in in many categories.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/23/news/la-lh-led-cfl-lightbulbs-20120823

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i think it should be LED Downlight or LED Ceiling Light, maybe you could get more information on the page http://www.ledlighttrade.com/

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@ledslights001: I asked this over a month ago. Track lights have been for weeks. I'll decide if I want to switch to LED when it starts to get dark earlier. And if I do decide to get LED lights, I"m not going to buy them from an unknown chinese light place.
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