questionshave you heard of the "oakley" site selling…

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Thanks for the heads-up. We all need to keep an eye out for it here, too.

I've reported this info to the official Oakley website. Anyone else who'd like to do so (the more, the merrier, I think) can do so here: http://www.oakley.com/report-fakes

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From the FAQ:
Who would not want to shield his eyes from the burning ultraviolet rays with an accessory that enhances the individual's overall personality and makes him look cool in the grueling summers? Perhaps each one of us, and it is due to this that the glamour of sunglasses is increasing day by day.

Gone are the days when sunglasses would sit on the nose of only well known tube world icons, golfers, swimmers, and the like. From the classified sections, sunglasses have successfully made it to the world of ordinary people like you and me. (cont)

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At present, the market of sunshades is experiencing an incredible rise. With various celebrities and designers plunging in, the sunglasses business has further picked up pace. But this has indirectly turned out to be a little troublesome for common people like us who wish to have a pair of branded sunshades that serves our purpose of protecting our eyes at the same time makes us appear trendy and is not heavy on pocket. So selecting the right pair of sunglasses has become a Herculean task today.

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Has a fraud web link at the bottom of the site. http://www.oakley-ukstore.com/

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@wootfast: In all fairness, I can imagine Oakley actually putting that on their website.

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@neolithicx: Go to that link now (heh heh heh) and take a look at the new message. Or you can just go to the redirect site:

http://www.oakley.com/brand-enforcement?cj=true&cm_mmc=CJ-_-AFFILIATE-_-3668349-_-10477753

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Hee hee! There's a typo on their official, we-mean-business page.

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I take pride in (for once) being part of the solution.

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When did Oakley's graphic-design dept. start using MSPaint?
Notice the subtle, yet tasteful thick blue line between the blurry young ladies?

Could we be witnessing the birth of a new minimalistic marketing trend?

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It looks like the fake US store is still running.

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Has anyone reported this site to godaddy.com? The domain is registered through there (do a whois on oakleyusastoe.net). The IP address of the site is 5.39.220.3, which appears to be located in the Netherlands (which should at least have a more responsive ISP than most in China).

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I don't know if anyone is still reading this or not, but when I encounter an obvious fraud site like this one, there are two people I try to contact about it:

First, I contact the domain registrar. You can find this by running a 'whois' search on the domain. There are websites that will run the 'whois' search for you for free, or you can do it yourself from any *nix box. You don't need to know the identity of the domain owner, just let the registrar know what is going on. The registrar is responsible for resolution of the name (ie, mapping www.oakleyusastore.net to a valid IP address such as 5.39.220.3), and is able to interrupt that mapping so that the IP address is not the target of the domain.

Second, I contact the ISP. Lookup to find who owns the IP address itself. Usually a 'whois' search will give you that as well. Contact that ISP and let them know what their address is being used for. They can disconnect the user.

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@lparsons42: I'm still keeping an eye on the question and its replies.

Your info is great, thank you. Have you taken any of the suggested actions yet? GoDaddy is notoriously uninterested in any complaints from anyone at all, and I'm curious whether you received any kind of useful response from them.

(Long ago and far away, when usenet newsgroups were the way people kept in touch, I did a fair amount of net-copping while trying to keep a Big Seven group from being spammed to death. We were successful for a couple of years, but eventually it became a lost cause. I've since lost most of my energy and interest in it, alas.)

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@magic cave: I did contact godaddy.com, and pretty much in line with your prediction I received no response. I just connected to the "Oakley" site in question while writing this message, too; so they haven't done anything.

If I may climb on my soapbox for a moment, ICANN doesn't give a pile of doo what their registrars do, and the registrars know this. There was a time that registrars who allowed their customers to commit acts of fraud like this were given extra scrutiny by ICANN but now everyone is just looking to maximize profit without concern for who is harmed in the process. The current executives at ICANN are the same bozos who think that selling TLDs - which permanently screws up certain WHOIS records and will make things like this even more common and impossible to shut down - a good idea.

But at least this site is just selling bogus sunglasses. I worry more about the ones selling counterfeit drugs. People aren't likely to be killed by fake Oakleys.

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@magic cave: As an additional note, I see that woot is no longer sending me emails when I ask for email updates to discussions (checking the box at the bottom of the window). This is frustrating as it worked not that long ago...

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Another follow-up, I received a (unsurprisingly) unhelpful response from abuse@godaddy.com:
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Thank you for the message. After further review we have determined we are not the hosting provider for this website. We have neither access to, nor jurisdiction over the content on this site.

Any issues regarding the content of the website will need to be addressed either directly to the owner of the site or to the hosting provider.
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In other words, they know they make more money by doing nothing than by doing something. If they cancel the registration they might end up getting only 1 month's worth of registration (it was created 04 May 2014) but if they pass the buck they can milk it for a full 12.

They directed me to contact ARIN (European registry, as the name resolves to an IP address in The Netherlands). I sent an email there but don't expect anything helpful there either.

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I just checked the site out of curiosity today, and found that the domain has been seized by court order. As I have seen before, the registrars don't give a rat's behind about what ordinary people have to say but they will cower under a court order.

It's too bad though that the lawsuit is against the registrants and not the registrars.

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Looks like Oakley won a default judgment on the case (http://gbcinternetenforcement.net/files/caseNo-14-cv-3993/DEFAULT-MEMO.PDF). The award calls for $2M per defendant to Oakley, amongst other things. Being as they named around 800 defendants (http://gbcinternetenforcement.net/files/caseNo-14-cv-3993/SCHEDULEA.PDF) that could be quite a payday.

Of course, it would be reasonable to expect that the overwhelming majority of the defendants reside in countries where this judgment has no significance.

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I've paid for 2 pair on August 21st and now a company in China is telling me the merchant will contact me.
How do I get a refund?

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@kpottsbigdaddy: Most likely you won't be able to get a refund as almost certainly the transaction occurred through a Chinese vendor. I would recommend you cancel that credit card - if you haven't already - immediately and request a new card as I would consider all the information on it to have been compromised by that transaction. Your quest for a refund from the vendor won't likely be any more fruitful than Oakley's quest for $2M in damages from each of the 500+ defendants.

It appears you fell for a case of a deal too good to be true. I suggest you get a new credit card and hope that you are only out what you paid them.