questionswhat is the best camcorder value for shooting…

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best value? I'd say to grab one of the Flip Mino's that has been on Woot recently. If we're talking about water-sports, then i would sugest one of the Kodak water-proof ones

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Actually my son plays football and am looking for one with a good zoom to shoot from the stands.

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@rabid7: i saw the go pro HD on black friday sales for $199 which is a good deal for it. i think the OP is looking for a zoomable camcorder that would catch fast movement on land, though. :(