questionswho wants to relive their childhood?

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B0rked link. Fixed (have to cut and paste, since woot is still truncating links) https://archive.org/details/historicalsoftware

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My childhood did not involve electronics. Not even TVs. The world was my playground. Sunshine, dirt, dogs and adventure. I didn't discover TV and other indoor entertainments till I was a tween.

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@moondrake: Not sure why someone would downvote that. Maybe the anti-sunshine faction that's known to patrol the net?

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My childhood had TV and that's all. We didn't even watch it much except for Saturday morning cartoons when the weather wasn't nice. Atari wasn't even invented until I was in my 20's. On Halloween we traveled miles through multiple suburban developments completely unescorted by adults with no incidents, and we rode our bikes in the street without helmets. When we were tweens my friends and I would ride our bikes 30-40 miles on a saturday through neighboring towns without parental supervision. We all learned the basics of outdoor life & camping skills, built model car & other kits, used our own imaginations. I feel sorry for kids today who think 'the outside is boring and the graphics suck'.

I worked in the Rutgers University computer lab in '81-'83 when the TRS-80, Commodore and Apple IIe/IIc were new. Remember Zork? How about Beagle Bros. Software?

I'd LOVE to relive my childhood but I would not want to be a kid in today's world.

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@zippy the pinhead: "I'd LOVE to relive my childhood but I would not want to be a kid in today's world." Isn't that the truth? Times have definitely changed. I used to ride my bike 15 miles on a divided highway to go to the bookstore when I was ten. There's no way that would fly today. The cops would nab you and then your parents would have some explaining to do. I didn't start wearing a helmet until I moved to California as an adult. I do have to admit that I did smash my head up pretty good a few times before that though.

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As a child I went to the big park (100s of acres) with only friends for company and no one worried. And I rode my bike, alone or with friends, 10-20 miles out to the stables, back many hours later. TV was for the three stooges, looney tunes. I miss that world.

Later came a world of "twisty little passages", all different.

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@zuiquan: LOL. Maybe they are just jealous. The same goes for those down voting your question. I have seen the most benign posts down voted on here and I have given up trying to understand the mean-spiritedness that drives it. I wish Woot didn't encourage it with the down vote as an outlet for anonymous negativity.

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@moondrake: I'm thinking the down votes are juvenile animosity carried over from another thread.

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The downvoting has become such a plague that I have almost given up visiting. Between that, and the genuine, for real, customer service issues that seem to be multiplying into a raging inferno, there's just no joy in Mudville. When things mostly shipped out of Carrollton, TX, and were packed by people that worked there, it might have taken forever to arrive, but arrive it did. It's just become too complicated, too unwieldy, and less fun every day.

When I see the constant "revenge downvotes" (my current name for it), it just makes me sad.

Here's a bit of fun, from back in the long ago times, when we were still goofy, and all this anger hadn't taken over everything.

http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/76605289-d355-49f4-be76-d31865c9a668/who-wants-to-play-carrollton-texas-international-bus-terminal

If you aren't familiar with Mornington Crescent, I strongly recommend reading a bit of this first:

http://www.mornington-crescent-rule.fsnet.co.uk/mornington-crescent-rules.htm

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Love it. I spent hours upon hours on Karateka as a kid.

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I will pass on reliving my childhood, as good as it was. I will agree with all of you who grew up when kids could be kids and not mini adults. It was before the time of small, portable electronics. We rode our bikes all day long, built forts and tree houses in the woods, camped outdoors without parents, spent time face to face with friends, and watched cartoons on Saturday. The only fast rules we had were to be home by the time the street lights came on, call (collect from a payphone if necessary) occasionally to let mom know where you were thinking of going, and we could not go on the other side of the freeway (25 miles away) without express permission. We didn't wear seat belts, helmets, or have cell phones. Atari arrived as a teen, but we had other things to do mostly.

That being said, and as much fun as we had, I like being in this day at my age, but could not fathom how kids do it today. I have absolutely no idea how we ever survived and prospered, but survive and prosper we did.

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@pyxientx: I think what's also important is that we learned our boundaries. Physically, psychologically, emotionally and socially. I just don't see kids getting that now. Mostly what I observe is the loss of social boundaries.

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@moondrake: Your comment comes off "soap box-ish." At least that's my guess.

I didn't agree with what you said because there were/are kids who can play videogames and go outside and play with friends and I was one of them. My folks never told me to go outside and play because I did that on my own; it was something I wanted to do. I played in dirt, had water gun & water balloon fights, played with fireworks, rode my bike.

However, I completely agree with kids nowadays not learning the boundaries you mentioned.

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As a contemporary of Beaver Cleaver (even lived in Ohio near that time) I didn't grow up with video games. (For us, Winky Dink was a video game). We could go out without adult supervision, play sandlot sports, bike ride and enjoy being kids without fears.

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@moondrake: They also, for the most part, have not learned the art of civil communication or ingenuity.

My daughter is 19 and in her first professional job. I get those calls, "What do I do?". I always tell her to email (CYA protection) all involved and keep them up to date. While she is new to this job, and doing a fabulous job from what I can tell, thinking outside the lines would help her tremendously. She is proactive enough to ask well thought out questions and has the personal accountability to want to do well, I just think we should be teaching them some real world things that I never noticed was an issue for her until college. We were all well socialized as children and didn't wait for an adult to tell us how to do stuff. We just winged it most of the time.

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@pyxientx: Yeah, that civil communication is part of what I was getting at. I have a good friend who grew up a part of the electronic society, and not only is he completely tactless, it's impossible to make him even understand why that's a problem. He grew up playing games and talking smack freely online with no social repercussions. Now as an adult he thinks he can behave that way in a workplace environment and, mysteriously, he has trouble holding a job. An (I think) gay couple moved in across the street from me and I'd like to invite them to cookouts this summer but I am a bit worried about having them over when this friend will be there as he commonly uses homosexual and sexist slurs in his speech. We are on him all the time about it, but he thinks since he doesn't mean any harm by it then people shouldn't get upset. It's a frustrating problem because he's a genuinely good guy and this lapse of social conditioning seems incurable.

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I remember when the demographic at woot was under retirement age.

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@meanjoeira: Perhaps it's more a matter of us old folks being more patient with the changes here while the young folks took off when the going got rough. So the 50+ crowd numbers have remained stable, but their ratio has increased.

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Not me. Lessons were hard earned. I'll keep them and go forward.

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Hey, I was sure you were going to talk about getting out my Winky Dink and You! screen and putting it on the TV and solving the puzzle.

At least we know this much: when I was a kid, there was television. Granted, the screens were small & everything was black & white, but there was TV.