questionshave you seen the newest star trek movie teaser?

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Looks good. The first one was amazing. J.J. did a hell of a job. Here's hoping for this one to do the same.

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We'll see. I've been suckered in by too many nice trailers. And Abrams isn't infallible.

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Yes, indeed! Counting down to the release!

Count me among those who were concerned about the "reboot" of the franchise, but were happy with the outcome. The first movie was a blast so I have great hopes for this one!

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I generally don't like every rebooted franchise, but they did Star Trek right. I'm in.

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Check out the IMAX 3D release of the Hobbit if you can. Abrams is sticking the first 9 minutes of the new Star Trek movie just before it:

http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/5a796357-6817-40c7-b4a1-561d6a68517b/star-trek-footage-will-sneak-before-the-hobbit-hollywood-reporter

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I think the hardest part for old people like me is actually seeing it as Star Trek. I've been watching since I was in grade school and it was on a UHF station on Saturday afternoons, so this reboot is fighting against something that's basically imprinted in me.

I know it sounds totally, totally stupid, but I guess I pretend that Old Trek is the reality and this is just a movie JJ Abrams made after reading all the logs and getting the rights from Starfleet. It's a movie just like "Lincoln" or "There Will Be Blood" that's based on truth but with some dramatic liberties taken. It's not meant to be accurate, it's just an attempt to win the Organian Academy Award, and we just happened to find a copy that was sent back in time.

if you watch it THAT way, all the problems basically vanish and you can just enjoy the fiction and be embarrassed at how nerdy you are besides.

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@slydon: but what is wrong with accepting it as intended: Alternate timeline.
Or would the time-cops have prevented that?

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@j5: My way means Enterprise could also be a work of fiction that doesn't count.

Your move.

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@j5: in another world, I might have called you- friend.

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@slydon: I can enjoy the new movies for the fun action films they are, and just appreciate the little "winks" the filmmakers put into them that refer back to past movies and TV shows for serious fans. (Captain Pike getting the space-slug treatment, for example.)

I think too for some long-running series the canon can become a straightjacket, trying to make all the new stories square perfectly with all the minutiae that came before. It forces you into retroactive continuity corrections that really annoy your fans (I'm looking in your direction, X-Files). Maybe it's better to let time pass and just reboot.

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@slydon: what was really wrong with enterprise? I felt, of all the series after TOS, enterprise kept closest to the original feel. ( a sea captain and crew, who happen to be in space, and exploration is equal parts discovery, challenge, and sometimes battle) I'm aware of the few flubs associated with trying to force a tie-in, but strip that away, it was a damn good show. I enjoyed it more than DS9, and god forbid i tell a fanboy that, they'll have my head ;) :)

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@goatcrapp:
god forbid i tell a fanboy that, they'll have my head ;) :)

You apparently haven't realized to whom you're speaking.

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@goatcrapp: You and I clearly just have different tastes in Star Trek. But that's cool by me.

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@slydon: YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE IS WRONG!

VOYAGER 4EVER!

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We now have two Spocks - that makes it all good for me!

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@theoneill555: Two Uhura's are even better.

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@figgers3036: based on that comment, I now understand it all. There was clearly a transporter accident and I wound up in a universe where everything is backwards. <3

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@slydon: so put it out there for discussion :) I enjoyed it, and can explain why, or can explain why i didn't like ds9 as much (especially after season 4) etc. While it won't change my mind, nor will i change yours, it can certainly broaden the view i suspect. Most of the reaction i see online to enterprise is either nitpicky (which is valid, but i don't get it) or a broad, general, and visceral "i hate it!" based on just the feel of the show... so either way i'm still left wondering. Lets talk enterprise! :) (fair notice, i'm also a firefly fan, and star wars fan, which in some circles are all mutually exclusive, lol)

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I wonder who the bad guy is. The character, not the actor. There's a similarity between the blonde starfleet officer in the trailer and Sally Kellerman (from the pilot episode), so the villain could be Gary Mitchell. Although, how they would work that story into the completely different timeline we have now escapes me. Maybe it's Khan?

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I tried to like the new "Star Trek" (in name only) film.
It's absolutely wretched. Star Trek isn't a freaking ACTION EXPLOSIONS EXTRAVAGANZA series, but that's what J.J. Abrams has turned it into with these abominable movies.
I'll just go back to watching my TNG collection now, thank you very much.

EDIT: Having now watched the trailer, my feelings are only reinforced.
THAT garbage is supposed to be a STAR TREK film? It doesn't even look like it! It just looks like another generic action film!

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@rprebel: I'm most curious how the trailer says "coming back" like maybe the TV episode happened as it once aired and this is the Wrath of Khan style sequel. Or maybe it's just whatever has possessed him. I agree, that haircut is totally Sally Kellerman.

@goatcrapp Writing a Trek dissertation? I gotta work SOMETIMES, jeez!

EDIT: the voice in the trailer, I mean

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@stryker4526: Don't just blame JJ Abrams, also look at this generation's core market that they are catering towards. The fault lies with many, but I'll see it just in case. Of course after I see Les Miz so I can fuss about horrible casting, and that Javert isn't normally written to sign that high.

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@xarous: I don't know about that. So long as the harmony in Confrontation is good, I don't see how it really matters.

I also don't see a need for blame in regards to the Star Trek reboot. You gotta let the old stuff go. I know how you feel. I grew up with it too. You gotta let it go, man.

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@slydon: didn't know there'd be that much wrong with it to qualify a dissertation ;) :D

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@stryker4526: the problem is - its either this or no star trek at all. The last several movies of TNG completely flopped in revenue - even if they (some of them at least) are loved by the trekker community. Love doesn't pay the bills, and a reimagined series is going to have more action... Look at BSG - the re-imagined one was among the better examples of how to do it, but they needed the hook of space battle action extreme! (lol) with some of the lore and mythology mixed in to get the audience. When caprica came out - no action.. it flopped big time with audiences. A thinking man's star trek just won't cut it anymore. Their best hope is to hide the subtleties in between all the BRAAAAMMMP sound effects.

@xarous - Javert wasn't written to sing at all - the musicals are all based off of the Victor Hugo novel ;)

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I avoided the last Star Trek movie like the plague, especially since I grew up with the original and have a fondness for Picard & crew as well. I was going to blow this new movie off until I actually saw Cumberbatch and heard his menacing, "For I have returned to have my vengeance!" All in.

IO9.com has the trailer broken down scene by scene, examining clues & Easter eggs, in case you ST nerds want to wade in with your opinions.