Can you all start to include shipping into the final price? PLEASE READ IMPORTANT
misleading free deals shipping rant
by
nehinbin
asked 2 years ago
This is more of a rant like thing and I apologize if I give off a bad vibe. It is more of a suggestion for the deals.woot community.
I just thought it would make things a lot easier if we added the shipping cost to the price of the item. I'm starting to get really annoyed with misleading deals here.
ex.(not pointing fingers to any members here):
-FREE 100GB USB FOR $0.00!!!!!!!
(in small text) +$200 shipping
I hope you get my point. If we all post the final price (ex. 100GB USB For $200 shipped), people could finally stop posting "FREE" or "FREE SHIPPING" in their deals therefore not spamming the "free" search in the search engine.
I'll be honest, I'm a sucker for freebies here and have posted a couple myself. When I search the words "free" into the search engine, I'm expecting to find freebies and other useless BOC that will spam the sh*t out of my spam emails and send me useless stuff that will probably end up in the trash (excuse the run on sentence). It really annoys me when I constantly see deals that are suppose to be free but aren't. So I ask of all of you dear woot members to stop posting misleading deals with the words "FREE" when they aren't. Don't include "FREE SHIPPING" in your deal and when there is a shipping cost, include it into the final price.
I hope I have not offended or annoyed anyone here with this post, just trying to make things easier for the woot community and freebie lovers. I'm sure there are other freebie lovers out there feeling the same way, holler.
@nehinbin: I think a lot of deal posters will add the shipping and handling info when it's a standard flat rate.
Unfortunately, quite a few deals have variable shipping rates. What costs me as a deal poster $3 because I live east of the Mississippi may cost some one living on the west coast much more. So you can see how hard it is to post the shipping rates. I do try to let folks know that the rates are variable with a basic minimum if I can.
That being said, I thoroughly agree it's misleading to post "Free Shipping" when it obviously isn't free. But I don't have a problem when it clearly states I have to pay s/h to get the "free" item. I just have to figure out how badly I want to pony up that money.
BTW, ever try http://absurdlycool.com/ ? Lots of rated freebies.
@nehinbin: Well, speaking of rants... Please note, I saw your question and comments earlier, and forbore answering until I'd had coffee, and a few minutes to be slightly less annoyed.
"This is more of a rant like thing and I apologize if I give off a bad vibe." Seriously? Was that really necessary? Did you think that anyone would be more sympathetic to your question which has already been asked, and answered, OVER AND OVER? In addition, and pay attention to this, most of the people asking this have managed to ask it without the pointless swipe that you managed, probably without even considering how offensive it was.
Do not bother to explain how you didn't mean it. Do consider that it was rude, and not likely to win sympathy. I note that @lavikinga has already provided the appropriate answer, so there's little need for me to point it out, but I simply could not pass this by.
What @lavikinga said, if it flat rate or free, people generally state what the shipping is. Also sometimes the shipping, even if it is flat rate, is not displayed until the end of the checkout process.
Just noticed that my comment was deleted?
Edit:
Oh - I just noticed that the word that originally caused such objection was replaced throughout the thread with "bad". I guess my reply would have required heavy editing to make sense.
@anotherhiggins: Rather than the original comment being edited by TPTB and yours completely deleted, I would rather see the word automatically default as some words do on WootProper, or maybe a moderator step in with a post about proper decorum being observed here at deals.woot. "In the future, please avoid using the 7 Deadly Words, etc."
It IS woot's decision, of course, and that particular pejorative does carry tremendous baggage.
(Although I've seen quite a few choice words being written now and then and left to hang. Rather than have them edited away, I'm ok with letting the users look like a horse's ass)
@lavikinga: I concur completely.
@anotherhiggins: I have noticed that the woot staff has been a little more lenient on language on deals than on the other woot sites. Not sure why, except that they are having problems with monitoring/auto-changing the bad words.
Would woot staff at least make a comment in an "Ask the Wooters" thread regarding what is likely to be deleted or altered (please don't say/post this on deals.woot).
This could include a request to refrain from using inappropriate language including vulgar, abusive and/or defamatory language. Perhaps the posting of adult toy deals could also be addressed (yes they get taken down, but not instantly) .
There seem to be three types of offensive posters: those that don't care, those who are ignorant, and instigators. I would prefer not to give them any more attention than necessary. It would be nice to have a link or clear phraseology to post in response to pejorative language.
@glindagw: I Concur, I would like add abusive language I see a lot more verbal abuse here than goes on over on the other side and there are deals were it gets a bit violent, with what seems like no consequence or editing. The editing does seem to be subjective. I would love to see edited words in another colour perhaps to show that something was done. kind of like the other side shows a person is on probation.
@glindagw: There is a fourth type of offensive poster, you know. That'd be me, before coffee. BTDT.
@hobbit: Actually, I really love the idea of changing the color of the text when something's been edited. They could use good old burgundy, or perhaps do a reverse video on those characters. I know they seem determined to keep Deals two-toned, but showing something was changed would be nice. I also wish that when they completely deleted a comment in a thread, that they would leave the comment, and the name of the poster, with maybe just "DELETED" in place of the comments. That way, the flow of the conversation will still make sense, and not provide us with such intellecual dissonance when it happens.
For the sake of posterity, and for those who might not have seen my post before it was removed, I'd just like to say that even though my post was removed (and seems to have been the only one that was), I was only replying to an offensive word in the OP. Yes, I used the word in my reply, but I was chastising the OP for his use of the word.
I was not hurling epithets.
@shrdlu: That's why we don't arm you with anything more deadly than a flouder.
I really like the idea of leaving a big DELETED or perhaps UNACCEPTABLE. Perhaps one that is an active link to the "what not to post". I would like to see that continued on a word by word basis. I'm afraid that changing the color would draw attention to the post (which the poster certainly doesn't deserve). Instead the offensive word could be replaced with XXXX.
@anotherhiggins: Not sure why your response was deleted, but I think someone tattled. I am a fairly easy going guy, and I wasn't put out by your statement. Perhaps the person who edited the OP was different from who deleted your post. That would explain the inconsistency.
@glindagw, @shrdlu and @hobbit: I am fully with you on the appearance change on an edited comment/word.
@anotherhiggins: I saw your post before it got deleted so I know what you said and for a change you weren't being disgusting. :-)
@hobbit: That might be the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
I feel all warm and fuzzy. But that might just be the bourbon.
@anotherhiggins: Is there chocolate surrounding that Bourbon?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the dreaded "disemvoweling" or whatever it's called. I will admit to being childish (or curious) enough to figure out what the offending post originally said. Guess this is the one benefit of growing up watching Wheel of Fortune.
@lavikinga: check your PMs on the other side
@hobbit: done :)
@anotherhiggins: Bourbon! Yes! Chocolate! Yes! Yes! Together! Happiness...
@sand4me: I think he ignored me, or he isn't sharing his chocolate with us girls.
@hobbit: nom nom nom
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