questionsare you getting a ps4 or xbox one (first)?

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I've already preordered a PS4 from Amazon, also partly because of the price difference. Originally, I was actually thinking of going for the Xbox One, but I don't know how I feel about some of the "features". Particularly having to check in every 24 hours even to play a game offline.

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Sony dropped a bomb shell and WILL be charging for multilayer, but none of that used games crap. Can't believe you can preorder it already! I might have to go do that.

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PS4, but it will be about 4 years from now when I can buy used games and systems.
@firesoul453: I thought xbox 360 charged for multiplayer.

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I will be pre-ordering a PS4. The specs seem to be better and the price difference between the Xbox One and the PS4 is a big factor. On Amazon it says the release date is 12/31/13. I think coming out after Christmas will be a big mistake.I hope it comes out before Christmas.

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@xtreemsaver:

If amazon suspects that something is coming out a certain year but they don't know the day. They list it as december 31st (last day of the year). It will probably come out November.

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xbox 360 does but the ps3 doesn't so I was hoping the ps4 wouldn't. Oh well, hopefully PSN will be the best way to game online.

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@caffeine_dude: In all reality, yes; you would need an XBox Live Gold account to play multiplayer on the 360 (and the XBone, it would appear). Although, from the sounds of it, there will be a lot more XBL servers out there to support XBone games. And dedicated servers, provided by Microsoft, will be available for every XBone game, which is a step in the right direction, at least.

Up until now, PSN multiplayer (on the PS3) has been free - it sounds like online multiplayer on the PS4 will require a PS+ subscription (I'm unsure about multiplayer for PSP/Vita). This isn't a big deal to me because I already am a PS+ subscriber because those free games.

As for answering the question: I was planning on waiting for a while before picking up a PS4 (I had a bad experience with the original XBox controller that still sours my experience with any of Xboxes), but I am currently leaning towards pre-ordering a PS4.

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I won't be getting one until the second iteration comes out. I got burned buying the first gen PS3 only to have it crap out on me. The slim has been going strong ever since I got it. It seems like the hardware is never quite up to snuff for the first gen so why deal with the hassle...

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@zuiquan: That sucks that your first gen PS3 went out on you, it seemed like the first gen PS3 counsel were built like a tanks. I have several buddies that still use theirs daily. You are right though, its usually better to wait until all the kinks have been worked out of a new system.

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I'm still trying to decide if i even want one. I didn't like going through 7 xbox's. I also didn't like the PS#'s horrible matchmaking system or leaving it up to the developer. I did enjoy the free and my PS3 is still working. Playing my PS1, PS2, PS3 and Blu Ray movies. I guess If I did get one it would be the PS3. I just wont play games online. No big deal. I don't like screaming 13 year olds anyway.

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@firesoul453: You'll need Playstation Plus to play multiplayer online. Which wasn't the case before but you're also getting A LOT of features with Playstation Plus.

Personally, I don't play online that often, so I probably won't get it.

For those that do, this is totally worth it.

Still picking up the PS4 eventually... sometime when the public beta ends. :]

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@firesoul453: Didn't know that about Amazon. Thanks:)

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I wanted an xbox one. Nobody is talking about the fact that the kinect is amazing and the PS4 doesn't come with their eye camera.

But the used game fiasco is a problem. That's mostly what I buy. So we'll wait out the storm and see where we stand after Christmas (unless M$ backtracks before then).

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As a gamer, and a tech guy, i loathe Sony with a passion that cannot be described. many may not know what i'm talking about, but the way the Sony legal team ripped into GeoHotz was completely uncalled for. I'll buy the Xbox one, but i wont give my money to a company that uses it to turn around and sue some kid for modifying something he bought and owned. Sony is one of the biggest bullies in the tech industry

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I did the "day one" thing for the WiiU and I've regretted it. There are very few reasons to own it, and the accessory support hasn't been all that great. My new kitten bit clean through the charger cord on the first day, and Nintendo didn't even sell an aftermarket cable replacement.

Now, 7 months later, I still only have 2 interesting WiiU titles (and 4 others that you can get on other platforms) and waiting for Nintendo to put out something else worth buying.

Morale of the story: I'll wait a little for the new consoles too flush out a little ...

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I'm going with xbox 1 when the price drops. Sony totally burned me when they lost my personal info to hackers due to weak security.

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@ndcouch: No doubt sony went a little crazy but xbox doesn't allow you to run unauthorized code either. And actually the ps4 seems to have better indie support, so if you want to run your own code it will probably be easier on a ps4.

But I am all for owning the things i buy, thats why I picked android. Every single android device is jailbroken out of the box!

Its also another reason to pick a ps4, since you'll actually own the games you buy.

@amoraluv: ? They didn't lose any data, and they offered free credit monitoring to be sure AND gave away a bunch of free stuff. How could they possibly have handled it better?

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@firesoul453: They must have done that for only PS3 users cause they didn't offer that for any of their other services that they dip their fingers into.

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@amoraluv: They gave me the credit monitoring and free games as well. Which other services were hacked?. I was only aware of the PSN network.

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Did you not see the similar question posted about 12 hours earlier? http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/807dfd8d-434f-4e33-a82d-6b215782f8e1/have-you-followed-the-e3-news-today-regarding-the-new-xbox-one-and-ps4#20

But I preordered a PS4 today. Can always change my mind later if MS changes any of their policies and/or price to match Sony, but Sony was the clear winner yesterday, as much as I hate to admit it.

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@xtreemsaver: They had a lot of online gaming when I was younger and I was signed up to several of their games. When the hackers got them, they took the info from a lot of those games too. I had to change my email but I keep getting mail from strange places I have no association with.

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I'm switching to a PS4. Xbone is just too messed up: no used games, mandatory required connect. No thanks. That said, I'll probably wait a year or more at least before actually buying another console. I still have 360 games I haven't gotten around to even starting, much less finishing.

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Xbox one will allow used games, Not sure where everyone is getting this misinformation from.
Official link: http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
In a nutshell all they've said is they are leaving the used games issue in the hands of the developers/publishers. There are no additional costs associated with getting used games for Xbox One

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@arubiana: There are no additional costs DIRECTLY FROM MICROSOFT for used games, but, you need a license code to install/use the used game, and what are the chances that developers will give those away for free, especially since once you have one, you no longer need to keep the disc?

Used games prices, by and large, will go up, and/or trade-in-value will drop. Probably a combination of the two. And developers have the right to refuse to sell secondary licenses for anything less than the full $59.99 MSRP.

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@djp519: But that would be an issue to take up with the publishers not the console makers. Even Sony acknowledges the PS4 is subject to this: Jack Tretton said that, “The DRM decision is going to have to be answered by the third parties, it’s not something we’re going to control, or dictate, or mandate, or implement.” http://www.gamefront.com/sony-third-party-drm-refers-to-playing-used-games-online-only/

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@arubiana: The question of used games online is the same "online pass" stuff we already have today. That's not a new restriction, and won't prevent playing single-player used games at all. Unlike the XBO, which WILL prevent playing used single-player used games unless you purchase a license, either from the an authorized retailer, or from the xbox marketplace on your console.

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@djp519: That isn't what the official Xbox One Link said. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of games. So I still think most of this is in the publisher's court. Just what I think that's all.

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@arubiana: Microsoft isn't charging a platform fee, agreed. But the publishers almost certainly WILL charge for a second license, after the original license has been used/registered to the original purchaser.

By the way, I'm not the one downvoting you.

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@djp519: That's my point though. If the publishers decide to impose used game fees, both console would be subject to it.
Since the publishers own distribution rights and not the consoles.

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@arubiana:

From what we know about about Sony's console, the game is on the disk and while you might have to install file the game follows the disk, so unless all publishers implement something like online passes, then ps4 won't really work the same way. If I want to lend a game to my friend I can, if I want to sell it to gamestop or sell it to some guy on craglist I can.

All the microsoft games are like digital copies that come with a disk so less downloading. Its tied to your account and can only be transfered once without using a third party company like gamestop. BUT publishers can choose wether or not to allow trade in s so some games you might be able to digitally sell to gamestop and some you might not. And publisher are free to tack on a transfer fee of some sort.

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^^ Exactly. There is nothing to stop you from playing any used/borrowed game offline or in single-player mode on the PS4. But that won't work at all on the One. A publisher can still require an "online pass" or something similar for multiplayer, online gameplay (although EA has said they will stop doing this), but from what I understand, there is no method to completely block used/rented/borrowed games on the PS4. They even made that official (and hilarious) video showing how easy it is to lend games, as a shot against Microsoft's ridiculous policies.

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Well we all heard and saw what came out of E3. Sony clearly won. I'm not a fanboy. I still love games. ALL games.I don't care what system gives me the most bang for my buck. The clear winner of my money will be Sony. Free singleplayer. I don't need to check in online to play. No mandatory install to hard drive. Easy access to all my games via mobile devices.
If I do decide to buy "multiplayer" (PSN Plus) I get free games, discounts and it will span across my current (working) PS3, the PS4 and my Vita. I also like the price point. I don't care about not getting an EYE or MOVE or whatever the heck they call it because I'm not a "motion" gamer.
I don't care about backwards compatibility because I'm not getting rid of any of my old systems.
SOLD

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@amoraluv: I feel the same way about Microsoft. I went through multiple systems with the red rings. I didn't like that. They made up for it with a month of live. I didn't like that. Microsoft was also hacked into so I don't see the bonus there. Plus when the PS3 was hacked they offered a year of protection for free and I ended up with six games (full retail games) for free because both myself and my daughters account recieved the bonus. That to me is much better customer service. I've never had an issue with the PS3 hardware. The one other thing I didn't like about the PS3 was when they took away Linux support. I was one of the few that installed and played MAME on my console. Oh another thing I didn't like was when my hard drive failed on the xbox I had to buy a new one, and lost all my stuff. When I decided to upgrade my PS3 hard drive it was a quick swap in and out plus I could re-image the drive so i lost nothing.