questionsso, you really and truly hate the avatar chosen…

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Oops. I see that the nose is a bit cut off. I'll have to edit that sucker, but for now, it makes me happy.

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@shrdlu: I noticed your wizard a few minutes before @theflounder posted. I think it fits you. I like the workaround, I wonder if they'll let us keep it...

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@lordwoot: I edited the post above (additional comments and compliments and extraction of the last sentence) but it didn't show up (yet?)...

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@shrdlu: Did you thwack someone between Facebook and here? Could explain the nose.

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I hate my avatar, but I am not linking my Facebook account to woot. I do not like being forced into stuff like this some warning would have been nice. Considering that none of the people here are even my friends on FB I think it is a bit of a stretch for woot to even consider this. Twitter would have been okay but not there.

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Reading this with my first cup of coffee and what on earth are you...please tell me, @shrdlu, there's no chance of them adding avatars here. Tell me you are pulling my leg. I can't take anymore changes!

edit: HORRORS! I logged out and then logged back in. For the love of...WHAT is in that Texas water these days!???

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ugh you can log in with yahoo, twitter, gmail, facebook, and other stuff.

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I tried to customize mine, but I can only choose between 5 prefabbed ones that woot chose for me. I hate all of them and am not linking anything to this.

Not so fond of the idea. But I might do what @theflounder did.

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@sgoman5674: if you log out and back in you can also log in via yahoo and if you have an avatar there it might pick it up or you can definitely log in via facebook and use that avatar, I refuse to link my facebook and woot I don't like being forced to do that. glaring at woot staff

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@hobbit: No avatar on Yahoo. The only avatars I have are on Gmail and Facebook. I don't want to use either of those.

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...where are avatars on woot, now?

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@thedogma: http://members.woot.com/thedogma

hey the bonus is that it makes it easier to find people if you know their user name. no more searching around with the search feature.

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As I pointed out in the post, you can create a spacebook account just to upload your own preferred picture (remembering, of course, not to include copyright or inappropriate pictures, because even if Woot doesn't get you, Facebook will). I had a hard time choosing between the Wikipedia picture that I eventually used, and a really nice shot of a Betta. My official name over there is now Flounder MacSmitty.

Need wayyy more coffee.

[Edit] I pulled down a new picture. Now I have a nose.

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@lordwoot: I have actually been using the wizard since (OMG) 1990. It was originally an image made on SunOS, using an old X Windows program, and was a true black and white image (since it was a true bitmap). I actually spent about four hours making that. Back in those days, I was often pointed to as fitting the definition of a "House Wizard" (please look that up in the Jargon File). The picture just made me laugh. It still makes me happy.

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http://members.woot.com/hobbit hahaha and I found it on wikipedia! I guess I should thank the teen who stole my yahoo email from me to open that other facebook account.

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@hobbit: I kinda liked your first one - the face looked a bit like Strong Bad.

For the sake of posterity, here's what woot gave me:
http://grab.by/3KzJ

I'm not sure if that's a skirt or pink Hammer pants.

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The Woot avatars look like Snood characters.

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I'm still trying to decide what all this really gets you. For a bunch of people that thing visible "reply" "tattle" and other buttons make a site too cluttered, I have to believe that a crazy picture makes even more clutter. I'm still seeing a lot of internal errors whenever I make a comment (Creative Toolset is undefined), and currently, while I'm typing this, the poor cursor is flickering insanely, trying to update its position constantly.

Back to the avatar.

At least make it useful. When I click on a user, or type it in by hand, put some kind of link so that they can get a PM.

In addition, consider NOT linking Wooterville to Deals. I have seen enough "First!" and "lookit my funny lolcat pix" posts to last me forever. It's nice to have something where people can ask for help, and actually receive it.

More on this later, perhaps.

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Oh, and can't we just click on a link and go there? Could you folks at staff PLEASE lose the "redirecting.at" interference stuff that you seem to have gone to? {Like how I kept it from turning into a link? Me too}

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I wake up and everything is different. Why can't I just upload my own picture, without getting an idiotic facebook, myspace, or whatever the heck a Gravatar is?

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Just looked at mine. WTF? Seriously? WHAT are you people adding to your brownies??? Don't really want to add my FB. (One stalker is enough, thank you very much). A 4 year old could draw better pictures with a Mario Paint!

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@lavikinga: it doesn't really seem to link to my FB account. Just to the fake one I have for that email account which I can live with.

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@lavikinga et al,

I think it's pretty clear that all of the avatars are made up of different blocks - that is, there's a group each of legs, torsos, heads and hair (maybe more components) that are thrown together in a random combination.

They're weird and funky, but I don't really mind them. I think the idea is for people to upload their own avatars. But isn't this cooler and more fun than everyone defaulting to a gray box with a question mark?

I know changes are coming fast right now - and I'm not a fan of all of them either. But I think that if you look at this isolated change without bringing the baggage of being pissed off about other, more annoying, changes, you'll see that this is in keeping with the wacky, irreverent tone that defines woot and is really kind of funny.

Or maybe not. I will now stand still for you to throw rotten fruit at me.

For those who have tried it, does anything about woot show up on FB? As long as no other wooters can't see the link, it seems safe.

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@anotherhiggins: :::grumblegrumble::: You have a valid point. Would REALLY like to have the option of having nothing at all if I choose. Yes, even a question mark would suffice. To quote the Great Santini: "I'm an enigma..." At least I don't mind the question mark. Heck, I go around clueless about enough things already to have EARNED it.

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@lavikinga: I imagine a tall, thin blonde viking queen as your avatar with a sword

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@anotherhiggins: I would rather have a question mark. It would say to others that I chose NOT to have a picture. That would be fine. Perhaps the women object more to being caricatured with what are basically male figures. I found ALL the choices to be distressingly ugly, and even though there are multiple possibilities, each of us would be restricted to a permanent choice among the five provided. I didn't like any of them. AT ALL.

I did the next best thing. That's what gmail's for, right? To make facebook fakes? To upload fake but not ugly images? Oh, and...

{loads flounder from wayyyy last week...THWACK Ew. That was very messy.}

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@hobbit: HA! How about wild haired red faced bruha with a porcine body? That's Woot's selection for me. I'm going to try and see what Twitter will bring up. Right now there appears to be an overload somewhere.

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@hobbit: Actually, my Twitter avatar is a Vargas girl, and fairly demure considering what most of them look like. My husband bought me the print years ago because he swore it looked like me. Men are so sweet when their eyesight goes! I really doubt Woot will let that one fly.

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I'm a weird soft-serve robot snowman baby...thing. http://grab.by/3L1j Interesting.

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I'm with @lavikinga what did you guys put in your brownies? I hated my avatar choices, but i made a new facebook account to add a picture, no its not a duckcake YET, but it is rubber ducks in the Chicago river. :)

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@duckcake: hey I have an avatar picture on facebook. I shared mine. I don't like it but it is there, it is even a girl hobbit.

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I will say this though. Ick talk about about noisy! The avatars, add a lot of visual noise to wooterville.

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@hobbit: I would share my original facebook account picture, but its just a picture of my dog.

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Hate it!

I detest when companies decide new privacy (or non-privacy) and other options for their users, without any way to opt out of them. I do NOT want a dorky avatar, and I don't have time to go set up a new account somewhere so that I can link it to woot and upload a nicer avatar. Why can't I just opt out of avatars, like on other sites?

I also don't want to link mytwitface, etc. accounts to woot or to each other. And I don't want to log in with another site's password/username or have woot access them. That is how accounts get hacked.

I'm ticked off at woot enough that I've deleted everything here BUT this one post...which I will delete soon, upon closing my account.

Dear woot--don't be a dictator! And please don't assume that since your site is quirky, that all your customers are all 20 year old college kids who will love the odd avatars that you've assigned.

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@songdancer: Please please please do NOT delete this post. Well spoken words, and they need to be voted up. WAY UP.

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@duckcake: the facebook account linked to woot is a shell account. It isn't my real facebook account, just one I had lying around linked to an email account that someone stole from me. So I used it. This means I have 3 Facebook accounts to keep up with now.

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@gregorylikescheapstu: love your shirt - where can I get one?

My avatar choices were truly awful, had to do the facebook thing.

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Though, I'm thoroughly pissed about this whole avatar thingy, I couldn't stand the bizzare one woot made me more, so I linked this to the facebook account I just made.
http://members.woot.com/catbertthegreat

When Phil gets here, I'm going to have him beat woot staff with his spoon.

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@catbertthegreat: you should have put up warning I have a feeling some people are going to be spraying water on their screens. Not that I am surprised.

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I appreciate the groundwork others have already done, so that I might pick a picture more appropriate for me. I especially appreciate the reminder that a picture on Wikipedia is usually free from encumbrances such as copyrights and trademarks. I love the Tenniel illustrations.

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Since woot won't let us have NO avatar, I decided to set up a fake FaceBook account and loaded up my own creation for my woot avatar.

So for posterity--here it is:

members.woot.com/songdancer

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@songdancer: Did you read ANY of the comments that came before yours? Perhaps you read the description in the original post? Fake facebook accounts are one of the ways that your fellow wooters have handled this, yes. It works. The nice thing about using a facebook account is that they don't seem to check for activity, so you can just abandon it. That's what I did.

[Edit] Dang. I can see you've carried the strike pretty far. I'm too lazy to delete all my posts (although I did think about it).

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Yes, I read all the comments. What I object to is 1)wasting all that time making security and privacy changes to my account (setting up a fake facebook & gmail accounts) & 2)having a bunch of wooters flood someone else's servers with fake IDs to set up fake accounts, when woot could have simply put a question mark, blank box, or other "opt out" option. Woot is encouraging setting up fake accounts by not having the blank box option.

Woot is a store, NOT a social network. While I recognize that they are trying to blend the 2, that does not mean that their customers automatically want to do so. I came here to purchase technology & find out about items that I might not have otherwise known existed. I shared info on items that I had knowledge of (some of which were voted as helpful & made the front page). I did NOT want to pick from green haired guy picking his nose or other ugly avatars.

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@songdancer: Trust me, you are not alone in this sentiment. While I don't mind the social networking idea, I mind greatly being shoehorned into the pre-2000 mindset of what's cute and clever. The idea that we would all just love a clever cartoonish representation left me unsurprised, all things considered. The business model is flawed, of course, but I've seen so many things come and go.

Fake Facebook accounts just seem ready made for this. My favorite birthday choice is the UNIX epoch. My favorite school is the School of Hard Knocks. I've already seen several people who seem to have linked to their actual facebook account, with all that implies about trading credentials back and forth. No one I know in the security field thinks that OpenID is a good idea, and then there's all the fun of "Gravatar" (http://en.gravatar.com/). I can't even fathom the purpose behind this choice, but it appears ill conceived. Then again, no one asked my opinion (but I give it anyway).