Challenge: I need a new laptop.
Hello all, in case you missed me. I need a new laptop. My current one is a Dell Studio 17, Vista, and I use it for several clients - QuickBooks, Adobe Acrobat projects, pictures where I make slideshows for them in multiple CDs/DVDs, multiple Office documents tracking and reviewing, brochure creation, some website work and multiple calendars and contacts lists in Outlook with many years of message files. This laptop is only two years old and seems to be kind of a lemon. It has crashed twice, reload once and replacement hard drive once. I don't trust it anymore.
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sand4me
asked 2 years ago
I plan on getting:
Windows 7, 64-bit
i3 or i5 - not sure yet
I need to play and maybe burn Blu-ray DVDs.
Looking to spend around $1200 or less, not including Office. My thought process is currently to buy the less expensive machine, because I will probably want a new one anyway in 2 years. This Dell was $2600 with everything, and it has been less reliable than the little HP I bought used off of eBay way back when.
I really don't care about brand names - the parts come from all over anyway so it is really hard to claim that one is much better than another. (Healthy dose of skepticism here) I do like the Dell keyboards, but even that is not enough to make me want to jump back in the Dell pool I think.
@hobbit: Well I see that on Sponsored Deals, but I'd really like to see more positive comments than some of the ones on there before I jump in.
@sand4me: I like the Dells. I am on my 4th laptop. All 4 are still working fine. Like you I just need more power. As Hobbit pointed out I always have Dell build them for me. My last Studio 17 was purchased in November 2009 for $950 with Win7/64 and really works well. I know the Blu-ray will add a little more.
that dell was also the most expensive one they had, there were others, but I figured you didn't want those. Plus you may be able to get a discount via an employer which will lower the cost.
@tazz49: You have 4 Dell laptops?!?!?!! Each one has a separate purpose?
@sand4me: One for my wife, one for me, one for the autoshop and one that is old. I also have 2 desktops for photo editing and gaming. I love my computers.
@hobbit wrote: "I bet @shrdlu has you beat on computers although I am sure she won't give you a total count."
I bet @shrdlu has most Best Buy locations beat.
@hobbit: I used to have more but I have been supplying the relatives with my old systems. I have been building systems since the 80's. I am trying too clear out some of the old stuff. I forgot the desktop that my wife uses for her embroidery machine.
Okay, just for grins, here goes:
Desktops, currently running: 9
Routers: 2
Laptops currently running: 2
Desktops currently sleeping (either need repair, or not interesting at the moment): 5
Laptops needing repair: 1 (it's a favorite, and needs a hard drive, but I'll still probably end up fixing it)
The highest count (of currently on and in use) I've had was 17 desktops, 4 laptops, and three routers, with two miscellaneous pieces of hardware that were connected, and with an outward facing IP address, but don't really fit in any description that's worth using here.
HP dv7t: http://bit.ly/9JCWTl
Intel i5-430M
4 GB Ram
320 GB Hard Drive
1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 320M
$999.99
If your unhappy with your current Dell, I don't think buying the same model with newer hardware is going to solve your problems.
If you wanted to throw more money at this $1500 for the HP Envy 15 would be the best thing.
@shrdlu: It's like you have your own personal computer room, how fun!
@faughtey: ??? Of course I have a computer room in my house. Doesn't everyone? Well, at least everyone that I hang out with, in real life. While I don't do the work that I did, you never know when I'll want to play in the pond with the rest of the scum, and the computer world moves VERY fast. It's not all fe80::%lo0/64 you know.
@faughtey: really she has her own server room in her house, hahahaha
@shrdlu: I understated by saying computer room. Now I'll overstate by saying Data Center. It's somewhere in there! Up until a few years ago, I worked in a Data Center as a Computer Operator, but don't know what fe80::%lo0/64 is.
Edit to add, yes, when I was a homeowner I had my computer in one of the spare bedrooms. And it was the computer room!
@hobbit: I know! How cool is that?
@faughtey: I really wasn't kidding when I said that having that many (or more) computers was the norm for the people I hang out with in real life. It doesn't seem unusual to me. I have two KVMs, and everything goes through one or the other. Most of my machines are running some variety of Unix, a couple are Linux, and there are two XP machines (one home, one professional), and a Vista.
It is definitely NOT a server room (although at least four of the machines would be considered servers; two DNS, one NTP, and one doing other things). Certainly the windows machines are not servers, although I've had a Windows 2000 Server in past, and ran Windows 2003 Server for a time also (active directory has been interesting to me, now and then).
I was rather hoping that someone would have recognized "fe80::%lo0/64" but not particularly surprised that they did not. Here's a couple of hints:
That format is IPv6
Back later...
@shrdlu: first i want to say your crazy but in a good way thats just simply amazing XD
second i have 1 desktop and 4 laptops currently. I generally stick with hp since i dislike the dell i got but eh shrugs price wise i think Toshiba is the cheapest.
@shrdlu: I found this after you said "That format is IPv6."
Stateless address autoconfiguration
A node automatically creates addresses on startup on each IPv6 enabled interface—apart from addresses that are manually configured or obtained through DHCPv6. It does so independently and without any prior configuration in a process called Stateless Address Autoconfiguration,[14] which employs the Neighbor Discovery Protocol.
At least a link-local address is created with network prefix fe80::/64, and, when a router responds to router solicitation[15] (ICMPv6 type 133), a global address is formed with each /64 network prefix the router provides.
Continued...
@shrdlu: For the lower 64 bits of these addresses a 64-bit interface identifier is used in modified EUI-64 format. This identifier is usually shared by all automatically configured addresses of that interface, which has the advantage that only one multicast group needs to be joined for neighbor discovery. For this, a multicast address is used, formed from the network prefix ff02::1:ff00:0/104 and the 24 least significant bits of the address.
@faughtey: Sure, but the funny bit is that it's the equivalent of saying it's a single machine. I thought about just posting the "::1" but decided that one was so obscure that it would NEVER have meaning (it's the exact equivalent to 127.0.0.1, aka localhost, aka lo0). I was under contract for a while to do a book on IPv6, but I just can't maintain the focus. You never know, though. Stranger things have happened.
@sand4me: I just got this email and posted it, thought it may be useful for you: http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/06e43ffc-916a-4a5b-866d-05d2c0c3c668/lenovo-up-to-875-off-thinkpad-x-and-thinkpad-t-series-laptops#0
@dcalotta: Thanks - I will check it out.
@dcalotta: None of those have a 17 inch screen though.
Oh yuck, sorry, I could've sworn I saw an Ideapad with a 17 incher :(
So @sand4me have any of us been any help in helping you decide what your next laptop will be?
@catbertthegreat: My neighbor has let me use her new HP dv4. It is speedy and I set up her router and printers in exchange for trying it out. It is smaller, but seems quite nice. My cousin is going to let me try out her Toshiba. Not sure what the specs are on it. More later.
@sand4me: If you get the HP, be prepared to uninstall a LOT of crapware. I just reformatted my entire drive and wiped out their recovery partition while I was at it, a lot quicker than uninstalling everything.
FWIW, I am a partisan of the venerable ThinkPad line. It will cost a bit more than the same configuration at Dell or HP. But I don't mind paying a bit extra, and here's why:
1) No one makes a keyboard that feels as nice as the ThinkPad's. And if you type a lot, it makes a big usability difference.
2) The ThinkPads are more solidly built than many other machines. In fact, a number of models meet a military spec for "semi-rugged" computing: http://www.lenovo.com/news/us/en/2009/02/rugged_computing.html
3) When Lenovo bought IBM's personal computing division, it (at least initially) retained IBM as the tech support provider in the U.S. So the one time I had an issue with a ThinkPad, I spoke to an IBM employee in Dallas who did actual troubleshooting (didn't waste an hour of my time reading from a script).
4) No crapware to clean off before I get down to work.
I equate points 2-4 with lower total cost of ownership, even if there was a greater monetary outlay at the front end.
I bought a Dell XPS M1330 two years ago and it runs like a champ still. I have never had any hardware problems with it and it looks killer. Mine is 13" so it may be a little small for some, but it's perfect for a student like myself who needs to carry it absolutely everywher, and rely on it's super-long battery life. Also it comes in handy when I feel the need to get my game on (usually half life 2, or total war) not an amazing gaming laptop, but can definitely hold it's own against anything that isn't an alienware big black beastly box.
Okay, I am looking at a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 right at the moment. It is a bit smaller than what I think I wanted, but I did like the smaller HP. Did not like the Toshiba so much - keyboard felt different. Still thinking.
Necropost alert!
Have you ruled out today's Sellout?
i got a dell studio a while back. along with Dell's service, it can join the lemon basket.
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