questionsiphone 5 - every iphone accessory you own just…

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And this is an unexpected move by Apple how?

There's a long history of obsoleting accessories when going from one version to the next.

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I suppose yes and no... but even in this case the 30-pin connector has been around since iPod 3rd generation... so that's 2009... considering, that's a decent life for a technology.

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If there was only an industry standard connection that Apple could utilize so this wouldn't even be an issue...

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why are their day's numbered? It seems they will still work fine with the phone with you have.....I also assume that the iPhone 5 will come with things like cables. just give the old stuff away with the phone when you dispose (sell?) of it and they will not be obsolete.

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@funkadelic78: There is an industry standard. Everyone else is using a micro-usb connection and it seems to work just fine for those phones.

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@cengland0: I'm about 99.99999% sure that funkadelic was being sarcastic.

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@chellemonkey: you were a little low on that percentage there :)

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@chellemonkey: Sorry, you cannot "hear" that sarcasm when it's in writing.

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Why the surprise? This is how Apple rolls. And, btw, even though they didn't change the physical standard, they changed the connection standard at least once (maybe twice) since it was first introduced. When this happened many docks, car stereo connectors, and the like were obsolete. Users either had to keep using the old tech (hope it didn't die) or replace everything.

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@cengland0: USB (and all of its micro variants) do not contain all the capabilities of the Apple connector, such as audio, video, simple serial control, etc...

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@wilfbrim: I'm don't want to sound like an Apple Fanboi, but... Apple has never changed the dock just for the sake of changing the dock. They've changed pin standards as they've needed, to add new features, etc (such as component video). They also gradually phased out Firewire, ending with the 12V charging pin when the iPhone 3GS came out (which broke a lot of old-skool chargers).

But it's not like they change it every year, just to piss people off.

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@tsfisch: But USB does allow devices to be mounted like a drive so whatever you're mounting it to would have full access to all the files on the device. What other control would you need than access to the file system? If you have MP3's or Videos on it, those would be available on the device it's docked to.

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@tsfisch: I believe they phased out firewire because most PC's don't have firewire so that limited the market of their devices to Apple computer users only. Once they went to the USB standard, they sold a bunch more of their devices.

Seems PC manufacturers were unwilling to spend the extra $2 to have firewire installed. It's even cheaper if you call it IEEE 1394 so you don't have to pay the trademark name fees. Since the Patent is still valid, a royalty of 25 cents per unit is payable upon the manufacture of each 1394 finished product. It's not an expensive component but PC manufacturers tend to leave it out anyway.

By the way, the cord you get with an iPhone has a standard USB connector on one end and the 30 pin connector on the other. So obviously many of those pins are not used when connecting to your computer.

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I have a usb (4 pin) to serial port (9 pins) adapter that works with all my serial devices. The trick is the USB to serial port driver.

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And we all know by now that Mac rumors are oh so accurate.

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@cengland0: the iPod dock connector has a very simple serial interface (in addition to full USB support) which allows devices to control the ipod, or get song info out of it, without having to implement the full USB spec.

And as I noted, there is no such thing as audio or video support in a USB connector (unless the connected device wants to act as a USB audio/video device, which is much more complicated/expensive)

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@cengland0: Right - USB2.0 pretty much rendered FireWire (the original one) obsolete.

And while the USB connection uses only a fraction of the 30 pins, other doc devices (speaker docs, video connectors, car interfaces, etc) use the rest.

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I'm happy with my Razr, but thanks for the notice. :)