questionsdo you find it annoying when people question the…

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I admit I am a recovering real-time movie commentator. It's like AA, you're always in recovery.

At least now I understand better how annoying it is. It's a movie, and it doesn't have the word Physics plastered on it, so eventually you just have to let go.

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Why are you letting it bother you? Enjoy your movies and accept that some people enjoy picking apart a bad story.

I try to turn my brain off and just enjoy the story as it's told, but sometimes the plot holes are so bad it ruins the whole thing for me.

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@samstag: Is it annoying when people sitting next to you (while you are trying to watch the movie) say, "Oh, that could never happen! This is so fake!" and so on?

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It all depends on the movie. Some movies are great but have a few flaws in them that you can overlook. Other movies have so many flaws in them that you just shake your head and say that was a horrible movie because it was so implausible.

Regarding Back to the Future, I believe the writers did a fairly good job at it so I don't have any complaints.

Regarding Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, that's different. I was extremely annoyed at seeing such ridiculous things that could never happen in any world that obeys the laws of physics. I could never recommend anyone to watch a movie with that many flaws in it.

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Excuse me for asking a question. I have seen Back to the Future 3 at least a dozen times and on my most recent viewing I realized that there are two time machines back in 1885 and that the other one might have gas. Obviously I am not heavily criticizing the logic of the movie or I would be asking “why make a movie about time travel when time travel isn’t real?”

I am prepared for the downvotes so bring it on.

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@rhbama13: I am sorry, I didn't mean to offend you in any way. Your question just made me remember all the times in a theatre dealing with talkative people critical of movie logic.

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Not if it is a plot hole. Like in the Star Trek film where the Borg crossed through Federation space fighting everything the Federation had to throw at them to get to Earth, where they went back in time to prevent humans from entering the Federation. Aware of their plan, the Federation won. As opposed to the Borg going back in time in the middle of nowhere and flying through space unopposed to launch their attack without anyone in the future being the wiser. The entire plot was predicated on an irrational tactical action by an eminently rational enemy. I am annoyed by people who obsess over whether the science is accurate, or the guns are accurate, or the uniforms are accurate, or the history is accurate. I am willing to suspend my disbelief to enjoy a Godzilla movie without hearing about how an animal that size couldn't pump blood to it's organs and certainly couldn't shoot radioactive blasts from it's mouth. Logic flaws bother me when they don't fit the mythology of the story.

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@falcondeal: You didn't ask about people sitting next to you while watching the movie. You asked about people questioning the movie in a forum where you don't even need to read the criticism.

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@samstag: To correct you... I asked a general broad question with an example being that of a forum question. I followed your response with a direct question to you about specifically people in a movie theatre sitting next to you.

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There are two different types of logic flaws in movies. There are the ones Mythbusters test and are typically exaggerations or bent versions of the physics we know. These are fine as long as they are consistent and don't suddenly change the rules for some kind of deus ex machina. Things like shooting a circle in the floor and dropping through or cars exploding on contact with bullets or walls are fine under suspension of disbelief but if for the whole movie people fire endlessly from one clip and then the bad guy is stopped because he inexplicably has to reload then we have a problem. I don't point these errors out in the theater but they have made me burst out laughing before.

The other type is typically illogical actions or decisions by characters particularly when they fly in the face of how that character was developed earlier. This is just lazy writing and I will point this out and question it but very rarely in the theater and never out loud so it disturbs others.

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My biggest one is people who complain about the Millennium Falcon doing the Kessel run in 12 parsecs being wrong because parsecs are a unit of distance not time. At light speed it would still take years to get from one system to another. So obviously there is something else involved. Since faster than light travel would involve wormholes or some other method of folding space, the efficiency of folding would be the logical determinant of how fast a star ship really is. A ship that can fold that trip to an effective distance of 12 parsecs would be faster than a ship that can fold it down to 13 parsecs.

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Willing suspension of disbelief, as others have said. It's one of the first things I learned in an Intro to Film class in college, and probably the only thing that stuck with me (from the film class). I guess some people didn't take a film class.

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That's what makes movies fun. Sure they don't always make the most sense and do things wrong or leave plotholes, but I like that. It gives people something to talk about.
Just because you don't like his question doesn't mean you need your own thread to flame it.

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I don't question sci-fi stuff, magic, or physics-bending stuff in movies; that's all entertaining. What I cannot stand is the stupidity of the people in horror flicks. I'm ok with the concept of a child's doll coming to life and attacking people, but when the actors do stupid stuff like not arming themselves with weapons before checking the closet, not calling the police at the first sign of danger, and generally putting themselves in harm’s way, it makes it unwatchable. Why, in anyone's right mind, would you do that stupid stuff? The flawed human behavior element kills most horror films for me.

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It is funny how upset you all get. I can list 15 things wrong with the movie without trying but it is a fun movie surely your not going to let doc's super fuel formula (he has one you know, he did invent a time machine why could he not invent super stable fuel?)
Old fuel: That one was fun and easy to out logic.
Every ship to ship space fight is based on aerodynamics (in space there are no aerodynamics).

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@falcondeal: To answer that specific question I find it very annoying when someone is talking during a movie, whether they're complaining about it or loving it.

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Depends on the venue, and on the movie.

If the venue is the theater where paying people are forced to put up with hecklers, then the hecklers should strongly support gun control as a matter of self-preservation.

If the movie is one that makes no pretense to intellectualism, then it can be forgiven most things.

But if it's semi-serious science fiction or something of that ilk, then I hold it to a higher standard. My favorite example is the "Red Matter" from the Star Trek reboot. A tiny drop of that stuff will create a black hole. So why do they have to carry around a six-foot diameter ball of the stuff? The size of the black hole that the entire ball of red matter would make would quickly gobble up an entire star system. Oh, wait: Oops! It was detonated and formed just such a black hole within the orbit of Jupiter? So much for the reboot, our whole star system is now gone. Oh, wait. We're still here? Hmmm. When's the next sequel?4

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I personally don't like the people who think they're "real time movie commentators" if that's what you're talking about.

I once sat through a whole movie (it was Clash of the Titans) and this guy in front of me literally talked for the whole two hours. I was going to go insane.

But then there are those user reviews on Amazon or IMDB where the question the physics or even the historical accuracy of things. It's like as if they were watching a documentary, but was really watching The Three Musketeers (2012). Which I find just annoying, but oh well. Critics will be critics.

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It depends. If it's supposed to be fantasy, then some things have to chalked up to, "Otherwise, there wouldn't be a movie/TV show." For example, Boss Hogg would have been able to do anything he wanted in Hazard County if he would have just left the Duke boys alone. People who complain about stuff like that annoy me.

If something is supposed to be accurate and realistic, then I'm fine with people complaining when it isn't. For example, if it's a movie about the Civil War, then things like weapons and uniforms should be accurate.

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@scmtim: That one was explained in one of the later books (don't remember which one). The Kessel system has a black hole in/near it. The closer you come to the event horizon of the black hole, the shorter the run is but also the more dangerous and better ship required. By making the run in just 12 parsecs, Han is bragging about how fast and high powered the ship is as well as saying something about his courage as a pilot.

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@gt0163c: Thanks! So what your saying 'it's not the balls of the car but it is the balls of the driver...' Sounds like something I said when I was a teen.