questionswho has a kitchenaid mixer, of very recent…

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All mixers I've ever had have had the ability to pull the beaters out
of the batter, so that you could get the batter off the beaters (and
put it all over yourself, if you were careless). This mixer cannot do
that. The way it sits on the attachment base, it's either connected,
or not. It can lean back, like any other mixer, but if it's leaning
back, no power. I had just been looking to replace the mixer (but that
is seemingly impossible to do, unless I want junk). I only ever use
one attachment from the Oster, and that only during canning season,
and I would be just as happy to store it away on the same shelves that
hold my canners, if I could have a decent mixer instead.

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What I want to know is, have I just encountered some stupid safety
feature that all mixers have, or is it just mine that's dumb? Can you
pull the beaters out of the batter slightly while it's mixing? If the
answer is yes, then that's what I want. Otherwise, I'm going to buy an
old one out of the local antique stores, and use that instead.

{For those who are newer, and don't recognize the account, this is me, @shrdlu, posting from the account I use when I'm being funny, or in this case, wanting to ask a question.}

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In addition, the ONLY reason there are upvotes on the question and comments is because I voted it up (@theflounder cannot vote).

{This is @lavikinga'a fault, anyway, since she owns a Viking, which is lovely, but not great if I have questions about the KitchenAid.}

While I'm thinking about it, I'm not currently looking for a deal on a KitchenAid, although anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in spending my money and wants to explain why one of the models is better than the other, would be appreciated.

I really miss my old Hamilton Beach.

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I was asking The Flounder a question when my rep dropped from 92 to 77. Egad.

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My KitchenAid is one piece -

http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-2-Quart-Stand-Mixer-Empire/dp/B001KZ6RSI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316626931&sr=8-1

but the bowl raises and lowers with a lever that you control manually. I hate that it doesn't get the stuff at the bottom of the bowl which is why I have ordered the scraping paddles (thanks for reminding me that I wanted to order them).
http://www.amazon.com/Design-Service-Restaurant-KitchenAid-5-Quart/dp/B002KAPNAA/ref=pd_sim_k59
http://www.amazon.com/SideSwipe-KitchenAid-Bowl-Lift-Stand-Mixers/dp/B0027YOW8S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316627287&sr=8-1

@klozitshoper: rep is over-rated

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@theoneill555: Thanks for the information. Let me make sure I understand what you just said. You can't move the beaters up and down, but you can move the bowl up and down? That would probably work just as well (although, believe it or not, the fact that it only comes in red or black is a downside, in my book).

{I cannot believe that my attempt to escape the top 15 was thwarted. Hopefully this is transitory.}

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While my KitchenAid is more of the vintage (over 25 years) age, I have the model that the bowl is stationary and the "head" of the mixer moves. There is a lever to lock the mixer head down, so that the beater does not jump during mixing of lumpy items, but the mixer will continue to work if you unlock this lever and lift the mixer head. As far as I am aware, this feature has not changed in the current model of mine.

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@shrdlu: Yes, the actual bowl raises and lowers. It has two little wings on each side with a hole and a guide bump in the back for alignment. The bowl rests on the arms and has a manual lever on the opposite side of the controls pictured. There are several versions available that come in different colors (mine is actually onyx which is the shiny black).

While I love my mixer, for me there are a couple of design flaws.

- You can't remove the bowl without removing the blades
- Because the top part is so large and in a fixed position, it is hard to tip ingredients into the bowl (which caused me to get this - http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-KPS2CL-Pouring-Shield-5-Quart/dp/B00004SGFV/ref=sr_1_35?ie=UTF8&qid=1316630946&sr=8-35 )

(even if you stay out of the top 15, we all know who you are and call upon your expertise)

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I have a 5Q KitchenAid stand mixer purchased in 2007. The mixer head (where the beater attaches) can move up and down, including when in use; there is a lever to lock it in place on the side. I probably wouldn't try to move it on purpose while mixing, however, as it would make the beater actively hit the bowl's side. The bowl locks into place for use (turn until locked).

This particular KA mixer is supposedly designed to rotate the beater in such a way that it addresses all sections of the bowl, and I find that to be generally true. For the bits of sticky cookie dough, for example, that it can't catch, a spoon generally gets the rest (directly into my mouth, because mmm, cookie dough). Most everything else I can just pour. :)

Also, at least when I bought mine, there were plenty of color choices available, including that hideous pink, if you're so inclined. ;)

edited to add:
I have this: http://www.amazon.com/KitchenAid-KSM150PSER-Artisan-5-Quart-Empire/dp/B00005UP2P/ref=pd_sim_k10

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My version is the 5 quart where the head lifts up/locks down. My parents have the version where the bowl lifts up/down. Theirs is close to 30 years old, since it was my grandmothers and I remember her using it when I was young. Mine is about 10 years old. On both models, I can turn the mixer on without the bowl or head locked, to get that bit of stuff off the attachment. I use a spatula first to get most of the batter off, then might give it a quick whirl for the rest.
Also have the mixer attachment that has the spatual sides and its great! Gets all of the ingredients off the sides and bottom of the bowls that I would have had to stop and scrape before.
The types of attachments available for the Kitchenaids (pasta, sausage, ice cream, etc) and the longevity of the ones I've used means I recommend them all the time.

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The reasons I've always preferred the KitchenAid mixers to others are:
1) The beater hits every part of the bowl.
2) The top locks. This means I can throw egg whites in and walk away. When I come back, meringue is waiting.
3) If you do your research, you can get a more powerful mixer. You may not need the professional style ones where the bowl moves rather than the beater and top pivoting, but you can still get a powerful mixer. The first time I tried to bake cookies with nuts without using it, I realized I would have to go back to chopping nuts. I prefer the KA beating them to death for me. ;)
4) They last forever. My mother has had hers for at least 20 years, and my dad has only ever had to replace one belt. It still looks nice too.

My biggest complaint is that it takes up a lot of room, but you'll find you use it for everything when it's easily accessible.

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@willeet: I appreciate hearing that there are two different versions. In this case, it sounds like most expensive is not the right one for me, since the most expensive is the one with the adjustable bowl.

I appreciate everyone taking the time to answer this, and am so happy to realize that I can have a replacement mixer that will do what it is that I want.

Off to work (got to get ready for next Spring).

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@theflounder @shrdlu: LOL because there is always "more". I appreciate all of your input from either account...you donate a lot of knowledge and wisdom.

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I have a fairly modern (less than 10 years old) head tilt Kitchenaid mixer and it keeps going if you tilt it while running.

We went with the tilt version because it was abit cheaper, and takes up less space than the bowl lift models.

Kitchenaid's are tanks. My Mom has a Kitchenaid that has to be over 30 years old and is still running strong.

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@shrdlu: my big 6qt kitchenaid (bought at costco a year ago for $239) has the the bowl that goes up & down instead of the the tilting head. I love it.
when I'm done mixing, I just slowly lower the bowl and the paddles/beater cast off 99% of what was being beaten, and can be removed with very little drippage/mess.

we use it for tons of stuff we didn't expect to, like the meatgrinder attachment to custom grind our own blend of ground beef/ground pork for meatloaf, which then gets mixed with the other ingredients in the KA mixer... much less icky than using your hands to mix up your meatloaf

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@shrdlu:

Hey. about 20 years ago I had a 5qt KA with fixed head where a crank-like lever raised and lowered the bowl. My ex-wife ended up with it (I didn't have room at the time anyway).

About three years ago, I got a 4.5qt one where the head tilts back. I have three friends with similar ones (two much older; one much newer, maybe a year old). All of these will let you spin batter all over yourself and the kitchen if you wish (ie. they do not shut off when the head is tilted back).

BTW- having used both, I prefer the tilting head, precisely becasue it allows you to spin the batter or whatnot off onto the sides of the bowl. I always found it a bit cumbersome to deal with the mixer that my ex-wife ended up with.

@theoneill555: There is an adjustment screw for the head/bowl alignment, so if the beaters either hit the bowl or don't get all the way to the bottom, you could try adjusting it. I played with mine and got it pretty close without actually hitting and avoided the paddles.

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If you're interested in the quality, I've had mine (my wife's actually) in pieces. I thought that the sacrificial gear had gone, but it turned out it was actually one of the motor's brushes. The brushes are easily replaceable without disassembling the machine - that's what those two black screws on the sides are for.

Ours is the 4.5 qt tilting head kind, and there are no electronics in the bottom part of the stand.

The machine, when it started acting up, was about 10 years old. I have no idea how many hours it's run, but I would guess it is above average.

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Goodness, the answers just keep coming, too. Thanks again to the really helpful responses. It's made me a bit more comfortable with shelling out the $200+ that it would cost, and I'm very happy to know that I can have precisely what I wanted. I admit that the cost of a current KA is probably equivalent to the original price of my mother's Hamilton Beach (which I loved most of all), since the purchase price of that one, brand new, no attachments (those came later) was around $50, which was more than some people made in a week in the early fifties.

In fact, for sport, here's some data:

http://www2.census.gov/prod2/popscan/p60-015.pdf

Interesting to note that, in 1952, the average salary is $75.

I guess a mixer for $200 isn't all that bad then. :-D