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I was at Sam's yesterday, and saw several different emergency food storage kits there. Seems like I've seen some tv ads lately too. Dunno what the deal is. Seems like most people I know are taking the whole 2012 thing as a big joke, but I'm sure there are folks out there who don't. Maybe the earthquake and tsunami in Japan has sparked fears?


As a side note, Mountain House is sold out of the #10 cans and are not taking any additional orders from distributors until they are caught up w/current orders. There are still pouches available though.


I think that the disaster in Japan has really brought this to the top of people's minds. Outside of a very few, I don't think anyone even knows what the 2012 thing is. The movie was stupid, too (and I usually like John Cusack). I admit I'm saying that after only trying to watch parts of it, since I couldn't stick with it (not even for the effects).

On the other hand, if someone had had the foresight to include a geiger counter or radiation badge in these kits, they could have really made some bux. As long as Japan is still dealing with the day to day traumas, these things will sell. When the next big event happens, they'll sell all over again. People's attention spans are short, and they'll forget, the moment it's off the front page.

Some things are useful, and good to have (like the grain grinder you featured in your recent deal). Still, you should be able to buy them separately, for a lower total cost. I already have some of this stuff, where it's generally useful.


Well that stuff has been on their website for at least 3 years. I have never bought any, but I might reconsider if I could see it in person.

I dont think it is 2012, I think has more to do with global unrest. A few dirty bombs and the country might be paralyzed for how ever long.


Food prices are on the rise and there are already shortages of somethings and more if it is not a good summer for the US farmers.....


There is a Billboard on my commute to work advertising a 12-month survival lot that is "Recommended by Glenn Beck!"

I lol'd


Good thing my family has 1000s of acres of farmland!


@llandar: what's next, environmentally sealed aquatic craft? oh, yeah, those are called submarines...


It's never a bad thing to be prepared.


It's also just about the beginning of hurricane season so a lot of the disaster supply stuff is intended for that.


LDS tend to keep between 1 and 2 years of food on stock at all times. I personally find this to be a good practice. Imagine this...

You work full time, bring in enough to get by, not enough to save, wife is a stay at home mom of 2 kids. Your business goes under or down sizes and you get fired. Having food ON HAND for 2 years is a Major cost reduction. It would allow you to find a new job at a new company at a starting rate, and still be able to somewhat survive with out going bankrupt.

Also, on a practical side. If you store 2 years worth of food, at year 1.5 you start the consumption of the first 6 months of food. Along with normal groceries, this practice drastically cuts down on your total monthly expenses. (this is all assuming you're aware of and understand the value of buying in bulk)


@bogie21: very aware of this, i live in vegas



Slight flaw -- if you have the money to buy survival gear, you have the money to save....


With the Fed monetizing the national debt and cratering the dollar, food prices are rising and we seem to be headed toward a full fledged currency crisis. Strange things happen in currency crises, like empty supermarket shelves. Deep pantry is only common sense.


Yeah costco has a 3 month supply of food and water for 2 people that runs $999... WAIT, $999 for 6 months of food and water for 1 person?!!? HELLLLOOOOO SAVINGS!!


@ozymandias2: Very true. Let's see, using some average Numbers for Boise, Idaho:

Home Loan: $1300
Car Loan: $350
Gas/Electric: $150
Sewer/Garbage: $25
Gas Consumption: Natl. Avg. of 1000 miles/mo , 20 miles to the gallon = 1000/20= 50 gallons/mon * $3.75/gallon of gas = Monthly Gas Cost of: $187.50

So, estimated monthly Required bills to pay = $2012.50 * 3 months out of work = $6037.50 minimum in savings.

The bare minimum you would need to have in savings to survive w/o drastically changing the way you live. Remember, this is excluding food and assuming you canceled every novelty such as Cell phones, internet, home phone, television, Netflix(?), etc.

Bulk foods are stored up over time. Any savvy shopper wouldn't go spend $1,000 at costco for 3 months of food. You buy what you need online or from stores over time.


the problem with all those survival kits is, I don't beleive I saw one kit with a bottle of tequilla. What good would surviving be?


Why are you Americans so afraid of death? Or is it just the pain of starvation that frightens you? If I could create 'survival big macs and big gulps', I'd make a fortune.


I do not fear death. It's the eternal nothingness afterward I can't stand.


@twootwillery: You British?

I'm Amurican, I do whaa I waaant.


As many people have said. It's better to be safe, than sorry.


@bogie21: Of course the people buying it are going to say that, it justifies their paranoia!

@rlapid2112: Damn trolls.


I first saw this at costco about 1 or 2 years ago. It came in a 5-gallon bucket that was meant to be used as a toilet if needed.

I don't think there's any particular hype, it's just a useful little insurance policy. Here in Norcal, we are prone to earthquakes, I was very near the epicenter of the 89 loma prieta quake. My neighborhood had no power for over 48 hours, and we had to drive 1/2 hour to get to a grocery store that had power just to buy some food, our regular supermarket was 1 block away. That quake was relatively minor, had it been a little bit worse, I could easily see a situation where having a few weeks worth of rations makes perfect sense.

I now live near Sacramento, and an earthquake that occurs while the rivers are high like they were about 10 days ago could easily have ruptured levies and resulted in widespread loss of easily available food.

Finally, do you think a few hundred thousand people around new orleans would have found this item useful a few years ago?


You poor thing! 2 whole days without power? In a balmy climate? Whatever did you do? and 30 minutes to the store? OH THE HORROR!

That said, much of the country has 48 hour+ power outages at times -- and even longer. Some of my buddies were without power for 3 weeks, and the average temp for those three weeks was below freezing -- and the nearest grocery store to my home is ~20 minutes away. That doesn't sound like much hardship, really. Any intelligent human knows enough to keep some food on hand for at least a few days. Several weeks of canned goods, and some bottled water are not hard, nor expensive to come by. The only real advantage these kits have is compactness -- grab one or two buckets, rather than a laundry basket of cans.


In my case, since I live in a place with frequent tornadoes and snow-storms, I just keep my camping gear in an easy-to-grab spot, a spare tank for the grill (warm meals, and possibly to consume perishables out of the freezer), a few jugs of bottled water (I rotate this out when canning or brewing), and some extra canned goods in the pantry. Total cost? $0, and I have enough food for my family, for 2 months if we have access to water, and 2 weeks if we need to only rely on the bottles I have.


@ozymandias2: wow, i have found one good reason to live in nevada; the last time we had anything close to 24 hours without power, it was some kind of west coast outage in, like, '98.

it does get hot, but it's a dry heat.


@ozymandias2: 48 hours without power in a major city is really serious.
most parts of the country that experience outages like that on a regular basis are used to it and are prepared, which was the point of my post... being prepared is the smart thing to do. I wasn't complaining how "HORRIBLE" it was, I was pointing out that it was JUST 48 hours, and stating that if it had lasted for several weeks, things would have been far more serious.

Now, stop trolling.


Much has been written on the contents of a survival kit.. but I'd add this: go to the liquor store and buy 2 or 3 cases of the most rot gut vodka (in the plastic bottles) you can get.

When the zombies attack and the economy grinds to a halt, you'll be able to barter liquor for some very high value items. ...and the shelf life = forever!


Any country...and I mean ANY matter how wealthy and civilized they are in good times, is three weeks of empty grocery store shelves away from total anarchy.

It's never wise to take for granted things which make the difference between life and death.