questionspet owners, have you seen the recent fda warnings…

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No, I hadn't seen this. As a pet owner this is good to know. I try to avoid imported treats anyway but the occasional freebie does slip through. Thanks for the info!

@minkeygirl7: Then why answer?

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@minkeygirl7: If you don't have anything better to do or more interesting to say it's cool I guess, Just don't see why you'd waste the time.

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I have been following the issues since the dog food hit the list. Thank you for posting, as all pet owners need to be aware.

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Thanks for the heads up. After the 2007 major fiasco w/ contaminated pet food from China, I usually am very careful about looking at the labels. I will be extra judicious. Just got some new treats we haven't tried before.

The FDA does not list any brands. Does anyone have a link to brands affected ?
Thanks.

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@nmchapma: Cuz i got nothing better to do. You must not either if you are devoting so much time to give me crap about it. It was an idle comment, nothing more.

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@ceagee: I visited several news websites with articles looking for the link to the FDA website and none of them listed any specific brands. I make it a practice to only use USA made treats. Mostly what I use are the fruit flavored biscuits made in-house by a local pet food store. Simba especially enjoys the blueberry-yogurt ones. At 3lbs for $8 they aren't cheap, but not too outrageous.

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@moondrake: One problem w/ USA made treats that was brought up on a pet forum, is that some still use source materials from China. Not all, but some try to slip that through. That way they can say made in USA.

The treats you get sound great ! I used to make homemade treats for my pets. But the current cat I have does not like chicken in the human consumption form. It has to be in cat food or cat treats. Weird. He will not eat any people food, even if it is something cats eat. So no homemade treats here. ugh.

I tried a bunch of different treats from petflow posted on deals. They are all "reputable " brands. That doesn't seem to mean much these days though. I fired off a couple emails where the info wasn't on site. I didn't look for source ingredients though. May have to check through that next. How did it get so complicated ?
I wish manufacturers would post where the make it and the source material. I guess the lack of information is information.

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@ceagee: I'm in kind of the same boat with dog food. I have given up on buying online as I kept getting bags from a particular plant that's had problem in the past and everything they produce makes my dog sick. I have to pay 20-25% more to buy my brand locally but if the dog can't eat it it doesn't really matter whow cheap it is.

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My mother and sister actually bake a lot of the cookie treats our dog eats. My wife has baked a few as well but they always have plenty since there dogs are 10-12 times the size of ours :-/ As far as the jerky/meat/bone treats go I don't really have a good local source for those. If they were avaliable we'd buy them. Anyone have any suggestions?

I've also never found a place to order Blue Buffalo that makes it any cheaper than just going to petsmart. The dog eats a quater can of wet food in the AM with the hard food but I haven't found either cheaper online.

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@nmchapma: Do you have a local pet supply place that might make their own? The only other thing would be to spend some time researching a particular brand and stick with one that meets your standards. For example, Merrick makes a lot of chew type treats, and I've had good results from their products and heard nothing but good about them. This is what they claim on their website:
"Food Worthy of a Fork™. This is the standard to which we hold ourselves. Recipes that are real and wholesome, made with USDA-inspected deboned meat and fresh produce. Our recipes have higher-quality protein and industry-leading levels of glucosamine and chondroitin. None of our ingredients are ever imported from China. It’s health you can see in your dog’s bowl and more importantly in your dog. This is the kind of food that pets beg for. After all, They Want What We Want™."
http://www.merrickpetcare.com/

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I still had one pack of treats made in China that I hadn't tossed. I checked everything I could find and these are probably not affected (especially since over half of them have already been eaten), but I pitched them anyway.

Just FYI, they were Dingo Chip Mix Chicken and Sweet Potato treats, NOT jerky. Better safe than sorry, though.

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@moondrake: I feed some Merrick flavors to my cats. I always liked their stuff. They changed formulas this past year though, and added more crap and took out some of the protein. :( They don't like it very much any more.
It used to be the fav.

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FYI: Just got this response back from Kong treats :

Thank you so much for choosing KONG, and we appreciate you writing to us. All of our dog and cat treats (except the IQ Treats which are made in Denmark) are made in the USA. All of our rubber KONG and Genius toys are made in the USA as well. For confirmation our packaging will also show USA as well.

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"...One problem w/ USA made treats that was brought up on a pet forum, is that some still use source materials from China. Not all, but some try to slip that through. That way they can say made in USA...."

@ceagee: This is a problem with more than just pet food. True, a product may be made in the USA as the factory that mixes the ingredients, processes, and packages might be here in the States but the ingredients may be sourced elsewhere.

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I did see this but like @ceagee: I could not find a brand.

When I first read about this I thought, 'great to know?'

FYI My dog shows all the symptoms if she eats too many 'raw hides'

**Fun note you should wash your hands after touching dog treats.

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@moondrake: I've checked the local places and they all make biscuit type treats but no one makes jerky or meat type. Of course local is preffered but a responsible national brand is the next best I'd say. The problem is as soon as we find something, it changes. Dog food has been that way a while but we finally found one that either hasn't changed or the dog doesn't mind. We've never looked at Merrick, I'll have to check it out.

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@ceagee: I'd never have guessed anything from KONG was made in the USA. Even if they are importing materials (doubtful) they're doing better than I expected.

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@caffeine_dude: Dogs are much more resistant to food-borne bacteria than humans. They have a shorter intestinal tract. Dogs digest food about twice as fast as humans (8hrs vs 15hrs) and their stomach acid is 3x as powerful as ours. Bacteria has a harder time taking hold in a dog's system. There can be bacteria present in dog food or treats that is not harmful to a healthy dog but can be harmful to you if ingested. Several of the dog food recalls have been due to humans getting salmonella from handling the dog food, but no dogs were sickened from eating it. You should always wash your hands after handling dog food or treats.

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I wish every product was required to have it's country of origin printed in bold letters on the front for everyone to see. You'd be surprised how much of our food supply is imported from China. If people wouldn't buy this stuff, they wouldn't import it.

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3 words: Peeled baby carrots. Fast & crunchy, your dog likely doesn't need the fat from the other treats.

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@havocsback: My guy won't eat them, unless they are cooked. pia

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@dontwantaname: Mine won't eat them unless they are cooked with butter, meat, or candied. Other than meat and milk products, the only people food he really likes are sweets. Of course he doesn't get much in the way of sweets outside his fruit and yogurt dog biscuits. My dog stays pretty lean, I don't worry too much about fat.

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I saw this story about a week ago and it's horrifying. I lost two dogs to cancer last year and that was tough, but it helps knowing they were elderly dogs that lived full lives. How does one get over losing a beloved dog to a treat you gave them? My heart aches for the 600+ families that lost their dogs.

We try to avoid all treats made in China or of unknown origin because of past incidences like this. It's difficult because it's not always stated. Fortunately, my dog doesn't really care much for treats. He goes crazy for fruits—strawberries, pineapple, apples, etc.

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@thewronggrape: The toy ball that was injuring dog's tongues freaked me out, it was the sort of thing I buy for Simba. http://gottalovealab.com/dangerous-dog-toy.html It was recalled but I've been careful to make sure any rubber toy has more than one hole. Also the tragic story about the dog being killed by a bomb in a found tennis ball still upsets me. The malice of it is sickening. http://www.snopes.com/critters/mishaps/tennisball.asp

Simba has had stomach issues since I adopted him six years ago. This forced me to become knowledgeable about dog foods and treats and to be a careful label reader for everything that goes in his mouth. My friends know they must ask before giving him anything, even if it's something he's approved to have, because I limit his intake of non-kibble foods. When we are eating pizza they each save him a little bit of "pizza bone", because everyone wanst to give him a treat and he's only allowed one "pizza bone" per day.

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@dontwantaname: They're pretty much the only treats she's gotten since we brought her 2 lb butt home from the shelter, but for years(and 2 prior woofs) it's been the main treat.

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@havocsback: Tried carrots, funny she took one, very excited.
Bit it in half, spit it out. Looked up and I shrugged, she picked up half, and tried again, spit it out. This went on until there was little pieces of the carrot everywhere, I figured she would say ah what the heck and eat the damn thing.
Nope.

Product endorsement
The Kong (The black one) is the best toy we have purchased for the dog. She has ruined every toy. The lady at the store was trying to sell all kinds of stuff (we did do deer antler) I asked for Kong (thanks to the woot community.) The deer antler lasted 1 week they said it would last a month.
We have owned the Kong for a few months and it only has blemishes, no missing parts, no holes.

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@dontwantaname: What about frozen green beans? They work great for our picky eater :-)

She also loves fruit which isn't as good but I can't believe it's not better for her than any packaged treat.

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Glad word about this is getting out as it seems to have been going on for awhile. Have spent the past couple days doing research on cat foods after I heard...we have to cook food for one of our cats but another one lost weight and had trouble chewing due to pneumonia and ear infection so we've been supplementing hers with high quality canned food. So much small print but trying to make sure we get made in USA brands.