questionswant to report piracy and counterfeiters?


Nice. Great topic! One question.

Which autobot do they send to relay the response? I'll do it if it's Optimus, but if it's just Ratchet...I dunno. Maybe.


Most abuse mail you can forward to For example, you get an email from eBay asking for a password reset. Forward that email to so they can track it down.


What Groupon thing? What did I miss this time?


Good information @thunderthighs

I love taking down sites selling counterfeit stuff; It's one of my favorite parts of my job.


@abramokids: There was a site called something like groupon-dvds dot com.

It had nothing to do with groupon and was just using their name to appear legit.


Hi Ms Thighness I miss playing your game =(

I know this is a skippy squirrel question, how do you know when it's a scam on Woot!?


@meems212: Awww, thanks.

Very good question. Most products that get counterfeited (software, Disney, DVDs, Gucci, Louis Vuitton, Beats, etc) are very careful about where and how they allow their products to be sold.

I plug the domain name into a site to see the registry info for the site. I use:

Things I look for:

• Country of registration (ahem)
• Does the country of registration match the URL? A .uk shouldn't be registered in another country.
• When was the site created? I'm very wary of sites created in the last 6 months, for example.
• Is it an anonymous registration? That's a red flag for me. Doesn't mean they're definitely suspect but it is another data point.
• If it's an anonymous registration, then I have to go to the site itself and look at some pages. Tell-tale pages are usually the payment terms, About Us, Contact, & Terms. Often these will be boilerplate info from the website theme package.

That's a start.


@thunderthighs: Thank you, now that I know you & Woot! can count me in!


Already have an update: I updated the Microsoft link to their new webpage.

UPDATE: Well, that form sucks. It assumes you bought the software. I'll try to find another way to report Microsoft stuff. I'm checking with my 'sources'.


"Want to report piracy and counterfeiters?"

uh, nope...


@thunderthighs: So if the country of origin is not in the United States, who has jurisdiction on brining the site down? This has been a huge problem in China because the US cannot do much about those sites.

I remember a current bill in congress that is attempting to fix this issue by forcing the US DNS companies to remove these from their lists. Unfortunately, this will still allow access via the IP address so they already discovered a workaround even before the bill passes.


@cengland0: I'm definitely no expert on the laws and enforcement. There have been couple cases recently though that have been in the news. In these cases, US officials work with officials in other countries to seize and shut down these operations and/or they seize the domain names.


@cengland0: This also violates the ethos of the internet at it's heart. The US government does not own the internet and censoring what is viewable is just as bad as China and Iran blocking content against it's government.


@druke: Taking down sites selling counterfeit goods does not violate the ethos of the internet. Taking the sites down for everyone puts them (in most cases temporarily only) out of business and isn't about censoring anyone.

Just blocking the sites is a half-step that happens because getting the sites taken down is not always possible or reasonable. But again it's not a matter of censoring anyone, it's a matter of fighting crime in the form of product counterfeiting.

I'm a huge supporter of online rights, net neutrality, and anti-censorship but I have no issue whatsoever with cutting off sites that are clearly and willfully selling counterfeit goods. It's not a matter of a company being duped by a supplier, these are sites whose sole purpose is to sell fake items.


@lordebon: I guess we have different opinions of censorship. To ME it's stopping access to something, be it speech or some other communication. And when it comes to making proper decisions, consistency is key. I don't cherry pick what happens to fit with someone else.
The internet is meant to be free. Therefore, in my consistent opinion, the US nor any other government, have no right to shut them down or shut down access to them.
Doing so is one step closer to total censorship. It's slippery slope no doubt, I will agree with you on that.

vote-for1vote-against counterfeiting for me but as for as piracy goes..well, that's one of those "gray" areas