Is cable TV a dying format?
Considering how cheap a Roku is, and streaming services, do you think cable is doomed to become obsolete? Between Netflix, Hulu Plus, and Amazon streaming, I don't even go to the video store anymore, much less order cable, and I can see everything I want to for less money. Granted, I'll probably have to go to friends' houses for things like Game of Thrones, but I am convinced that it won't be very long before companies like HBO and AMC get hip to streaming-only subscriptions.
Anyone have opinions about why cable is here to stay?
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jrpigman
asked 5 months ago
In mine and my family's households it is. I've always used the internet for entertainment, keeping my flatscreen hooked up to my computer.
This last Christmas I started the process of converting my parents over too, buying them a multimedia computer set-up for living room :)
I think, overall, yes it is a dying format. However it's gonna be quite some time before it dies out because the death throes of a large, entrenched, infrastructure can take quite some time (and be pretty damn vicious).
Also consumers will have to be happy with fewer channel selections and fewer niche channels since subsidies from large channel packages typically help pay for those. Not that they can't pop up again, but they'll essentially have to go away and be reborn - depending on the a la carte model that pops up.
I'm not an Apple fan by any means, but I really think it's going to take somebody like them to come out with their own a la carte system before anything really takes hold.
Yuuup, I've canceled my TV and just stream Netflix through my PS3. I did buy a $40 antenna to get HD channels for sports and some TV shows on the main channels like ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC. I paid for the cost of the antenna in one month of not having cable.
The only thing I really miss is ESPN since they have the rights to so many different sporting events these days.
It's outrageous how much cable costs these days and you have to watch commercial after commercial after commercial. To compare, can you imagine paying $40+ bucks a month for an Internet service and still have to watch commercials?
More like a format that needs to die... Unfortunately cable providers are also ISPs (and content rights holders in the case of Comcast) and will do as much as they can to keep you from saving money and streaming only what you want.
It's definitely changing. Comcast gave me cable free with my internet service or else I would never have it. The prices are ridiculous.
It won't go away until all you old folks stop paying for the damn, worthless, overpriced, garbage service!
/rant of a young whipper snapper
I would totally pay for streaming channels like BBC America and HBO. Why this hasn't happened yet is mysterious.
Our household uses a ton of streaming, but we also have three (!) DVR's so we can watch current shows and get my fill of Discovery HD, etc.
With that being said, what about advertising? I know there are some advertising spots online via some formats, but nothing like cable. Will this have an impact on entertainment costs?
I'm hoping it will instead go the way of a-la-cart where I can pick the channels I. The problem is what others have said, there is an entrenched architecture there that is hard to overcome. Also, Comcast is a cable provider, an internet provider and a content provider (NBC). Why would they want to let the system change. Right now they win.
I hope not. If it does, will we still get original programming from what are now cable networks? Most of the original programming I watch is not from the "big 3". Right now 99% of streaming is a re-use of material produced for broadcast or theatrical release. If broadcast and theatrical release die out, I find it hard to imagine a like amount of original material being produced for the streaming market.
@bonoman : Yeah, someone like Apple could really push this forward, especially with the vertical integration they have with iTunes / AppleTV.
@inkykatz : I have sincere hopes that services like HBOGo will simply be broken off as a separate paid service, and be available through their apps on tablets and streaming devices.
I doubt it. I've heard this before but it still is around and doing well (or seems to be).
There will always be "another deal" where you shift from one to another.
@czarkingkaiser: Which antenna did you buy? I've been considering this, myself.
I had kicked cable for over a year when I was living in Utah did the same thing got an attena to get me the local networks and built myself a media pc that recorded it just like a TIVO box.
But then I moved to montana... No one seems to be interested in doing a good attenna broadcast so I am out of luck. Bought cable used it for 4 months and cut it off again. I can't stand paying for it.
In order to truly get the shows I am missing I probably need to spend as much as I was spending on my cable to get them from itunes or wherever ... so now I am thinking about going back .
Netflix/ Amazon Video neither one have fresh just aired stuff for free. Hulu only has certain networks ...
Anyway I can find things but I hate having 4 diffrent sources to find the content if there was "one ring to rule them all" I would be happier. But I guess there is buy cable ...
Until that happens it wont go away. But I am totally on the down with cable bandwagon.
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I mean think about it how much does a network really make from the cable provider per subscriber ? It's got to be no more than a couple of bucks. So network X 30 bucks a year and never more than 5 minutes of advertising per 1 hour of programing I'm in sign me up cut out the cable guy.
I wanted to drop them like a bad habbit but my reception is horrible (1 sometimes 2 channels) and I can't use sat with a cable card which means my TiVo would be worthless so I dropped down to the basic $13 package and Netflix streaming which has worked fine for us.
Doesn't quite answer your question, but my innerwebz and phone are through our local cable provider.
They actually seem to have really good deals on TV, though. Tons on HD stuff without the exorbitant fees of Dish or Directv.
@shrdlu: http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Thin-Leaf-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B004QK7HI8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325784821&sr=8-1
This one. The 4 major channels that come in are crystal clear. I highly recommend it if that's all you want because this thing is tiny and can easily be hid behind something (like a painting).
Maybe in a few decades, but it's unlikely to die out any time soon. Just like physical media, it's not going anywhere until there is near 100% broadband penetration throughout the entire country. There are millions of households that cannot get reliable broadband, so streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon are not even close to being an option. Also, for the majority of people, until studios get over the whole "internet is evil" thing, and most certainly not until live sports are available on-line for free/cheap, cable and SATTV aren't going anywhere.
I think it will end up somewhere along the lines of home phone lines. People still buy home phones even though everyone in the house has a cell phone. No one really knows why they keep them, it's just one of those things that you have.
Though I would like to be able to pick and choose which channels I subscribe to, the technical difficulties that revolve around supplying a unique service to each customer is immense. VS. the current system of sending all channels and just programming the receiver to one of a few select packages.
It's cheaper and easier to manage 1,000,000 customers on 4 different channel plans than 1,000,000 unique customers with 1,000,000 unique channel plans.
@bogie21: If they've figured out how to automate billing of 1,000,000 customers, they could probably put their heads together to figure out how to cheaply offer a-la-carte.
nah. Network TV maybe, but cable is thriving. The problem is there is way too much and like one of the other posters said, they need a la carte. ESPN is one of those packages on cable (like $3 of your bill goes to them alone), but I'd kill that channel in a second.
Now if I can only have HBO GO w/o having cable. That was the only smart move by premiums in a while: the need to keep the cord to get something.
I have charter for Internet, and when I signed up they gave me basic cable for no extra cost, which is local channels and a handful of others (weather channel, FX, Lifetime, and USA, but Lifetime and USA look like crap more often than not). I stream nearly everything from Netflix and Hulu on to my PS3. I spend like $16 a month, and watch pretty much everything I want, whenever I want. The rest of the time, there is blockbuster, redbox, or Vudu. If I were to get any thing other than basic, it'll be an extra $30 a month, and when my contract comes up with charter, they'll want an extra $10 for the basic. At that point, I'll go to strictly internet from them.
@psumek: I'd say the opposite. Network TV's never been better. The picture quality alone says that. Broadcast TV can dedicate 20MBps of picture quality to one channel. Cable takes that same signal off an antenna and crushes the life out of it before sending it over the wire.
If you ever get the chance to have two HDTV's side by side - hook one up to cable and one up to an antenna and tune both to the same local channel. You can tell from 20 feet away which one is the cable feed.
@bogie21: My friend can't find a cell phone that he can hear. So he keeps his land line, and when he is out in the world he has to check his cell phone every hour or so to see if anyone is trying to reach him.
We both use tracphones, so our phones are always very simple and quite out of date. But I am a lifelong hater of phones, I got rid of my land line very happily not long after I got my tracphone, and I use around 600 minutes a year on it. It costs me a little under $100 a year.
@czarkingkaiser The automation of billing is part of the problem. Again, currently you don't have 1,000,000 different bills with different services. You have 1,000,000 services with essentially the same bill with a few things that have been custom edited. They screw up bills all the time because of the few unique changes. Imagine how it will be if not just your bill, but your service is unique.
Also, TV programming doesn't necessarily function the way the general public thinks it does. Lets take Dish Network. They have unique contracts with the owner of every "channel". For instance, they have a custom contract with ESPN/ABC/DISNEY (all owned by Disney) to be able to offer their channels.
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