questionsanyone from arizona? have you seen the media…

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the firstworldanarchists thread, lol

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When I watched that episode of kitchen nightmares last week I was shocked! The owners husband must have a ton of dough because it seems like they kick out virtually every customer.

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@conanthelibrarian: i read in some legal docs that the owner (amy) is a convicted felon, guilty of bank fraud a few years back. and Sami, her mafioso husband, even says to Gordon in the episode. "F9k you, I am mafia, you back off you little p%^y."

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@bmw66x: I remember the mafia line. I was reading on yelp that the rumor (yes rumor because I do not know this to be true) that he was a heavyweight in Vegas and she was a prostitute. After she did her time in prison for fraud they met up and changed their lives. Again, just rumor I read on yelp

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Just posted a yelp review with proof (humorously put, but valid) that these two meet a certifiable NPD APA DSM-5 2013 diagnosis.

After the Kitchen Nightmares US airing last week I just tuned into the ol' internet opinion pages, and man, are Amy and Sami crazy. Legitimately so, they could have a good clinical diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder. I'm a med student, so I just went over the markers. They fit according to the almost released DSM V in 2013.

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"A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the
following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior
without commensurate achievements). CHECK
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. CHECK
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or highstatus people (or institutions). SUPER DUPER CHECK
4. Requires excessive admiration. YEP INDEEDY DOO
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his
or her expectations. SUPER CHECK TIMES 10

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6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends. BINGO BANGO
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others." BOB'S YOUR UNCLE!

source: DSM 5, APA, due May 2013; tentative text in 2012 via dsm5.org

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This reality show episode sounds like another step towards the insanity that reality TV will eventually meltdown into if no brakes are put on it. It is amusing but not really news worthy since TV producers would show anything no matter how depraved or disgusting if the FCC allowed it.

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@mybestuser1: except this reality show was one of the few that were more or less "real" because of the owner's outrage at the public backlash following the KN airing.

If you didn't want publicity (good or bad) then why agree to have Gordon Ramsey, an internationally known and respected chef and restauranteur, come over to YOUR restaurant and offer sound, proven advice?

These people are certifiably insane. I am also positive that the FBI and local AZ authorities are laughing their butts off at the "hacking" attempts last few days when all evidence points to them just snapping online and then doing a 180. They still have full control of their FB, twitter, and yelp accounts. They might even be on "THE REDDIT" as per a tweet a few hrs ago. @amysbakingco for the REAL ACCT @amys_baking_co and others for fakes

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Absolutely crazy episode. I was so shocked I had my family watch it as I watched them. They're reaction matched my own. Those people were out of control in so many ways.

* great television *

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I actually had watched this episode of Kitchen Nightmares last week. Those two people (the owners) have no business running a restaurant or dealing with people in any way, shape or form.

I hope this episode ruins their business and exposes them to the AZ community for who they really are.

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If someone is that awful when they have a big-ass TV camera in their face and know that millions will be watching them, you can only imagine how awful they probably are in private. Amy deserves whatever happens to be coming to her.

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I stopped watching the Ramsey show a while back; the ugliness, foul language, and general atmosphere on the show were unappealing to me.

The comments here, however, piqued my curiosity, and I watched both parts of this segment.

I don't know who these people are, what their true backgrounds are, or why they're in business at all, but I find it hard to believe there are that many first-time customers in the entire state of Arizona, since I really can't understand why anyone would go there more than once.

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I generally dislike Gordon Ramsay and don't watch his shows willingly. His abrasive demeanor and arrogance is really not my thing.

This couple has finally made me feel something close to sympathy or empathy with him. For that, I will never forgive them.

I also have to appreciate that the couple says that all their social media accounts and website were hacked. At this point they should shut down and very quietly re-open a different restaurant in a few months if they want any chance at running a profitable one in the future. However, it seems they are concerned less about the artistry of making food or serving customers and more with making money. However, restaurants are a notoriously bad investment for anyone trying to make money. I think I remember hearing that 90% of all restaurants close within the first year of operation. Unless, they are indeed mobbed up and are using it as a front...

You can take the man out of the mob, but not the mob out of the man, it would seem.

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This will test "There is no such thing as bad publicity"

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@magic cave: from what I have read of him in the BBC versions and interviews, he actually loves helping the show's candidates generally. He's a chef, so food is his thing. He lives in CT near myself and is a good guy. It's a shame he gets the jerk reputation from Kitchen Nightmares and/or Hell's Kitchen in the States. For a more honest Ramsey, watch the BBC America versions. They're much more fun.

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@curtisuxor: I respectfully disagree, they definitely have no business opening another restaurant. Pretty much at this point their only options are for her to go back to turning tricks, and he can sell the paper bags and earplugs the Johns will happily pay double or even triple for. I don't watch KN, for the reasons listed, but all this hoopla made me watch. They actually made Ramsey shut up. He even tried telling them forget the stupid show, I want to help you and they refused. He gave up and walked out. You want to talk narcissism, he's the poster boy and they made HIM say "damn, you guys are jerks".

But that's not even the good part. The good part is their reaction. Their continued reaction. They just don't know when to cut their losses.

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Funny, I spent this weekend in Scottsdale and didn't hear anything about it. But these so-called reality shows tend to turn up the crazy-factor in everyone they point their cameras at. One of the many reasons I don;t watch them.

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Oh man I was just looking at the breakdown and watching the video last night. It's almost not even funny. It's just insane and a little creepy. I hope this is another stunt. These are the people that need help before they go buy a gun a shoot a school or something. seriously.

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Never been there. Know the area, just not the restaurant. I did cringe when I saw someone's foursquare list mentioning the place, non-ironically. It was literally one of her "favorite" places in the valley.

The crazyness is awesome though. I'm not surprised that it is happening though. The whole build up including her year and half stint for fraud is just great. Wish I didn't love schadenfreude so much.

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@triplebud: i signed a white house petition this morning under the guise that it was a link to their own site on twitter. The second account posted up there in my comments was a fake profile on twitter. These two need some help before they shoot up AZ center, most seriously. The NPD dx I joked about is seriously clinically significant.

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Just watched (thank for the links) and well..........
yeah speechless.

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Oh and interesting addition they may face real legal repercussions since they were using photos (and probably the deserts) from a woman in Singapore

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Crazy show...though I see a guy (probably mob) who loves his wife so dearly that he'll shield her from all the slings and arrows and enables her in all things good (backing her restaurant) and bad (arguing alongside her against customers, trolls, etc). Her...she's just nuts.

As for Ramsey, his style is abrasive, confrontational, etc but I understand it having worked in some busy restaurants and other high stress industries. You also have to remember that in this show, a number of things are going on - first is it's a TV show and sensationalism sells. Second is that these restaurant owners are so bad to the point that you question its veracity and how contrived it is that he has to go to extreme measures to break through the wall of denial they've set up, i.e. if you're so great, why is your restaurant failing and Ramsey there?

One thing I have noticed is that Ramsey never threw his success in their face, i.e. he's got a bunch of restaurants (20?) and 15 Michelin stars.

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@bmw66x: Working as a forensic psychologist and consulting wth reality TV shows are both jobs that I do, so I am speaking from experience and would like to provide a small amount of advise. Never, never, never give someone a diagnosis for a disorder if you have not personally met with them and been given the task of determining a diagnosis. If it is done as part of a job, which in some rare instances occurrs, it is called an indirect assessment and for ethical and legal reasons must be filled with all kinds of qualifiers noting that the diagnosis comes from limited data. I'm not saying you are incorrect, I'm saying that without sufficient information you are basing your diagnosis on limited data gleened from editted footage.

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@bmw66x: That being said it is also important for reality shows to be exciting and draw ratings. I am frequently asked to evaluate individuals who are seeking to be on one reality show or another. This is generally done for the purposes of protecting the network, due to the number of contestant suicides after being booted or voted off of a show. TV networks look to find a medium between exciting/a ratings draw and safety. If they only picked bland, "safe" people for their shows no one would watch. People who are drawn to be on these types of shows, by this fact alone, do generally show some narcissistic traits, but that does constitute enough information to give them a diagnosis without formally assessing them. I am not trying to burst your bubble and I think that any of your professors would agree, don't put your opinion out there unless you are confident enough to put your professional reputation on the line. This is especially true of the internets because they last forever.

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@bmw66x: I used to be an avid watcher of KN, those darn food reality shows just get me! But like you said, the BBC version is much better IMO. Just watch one episode and you'll see the difference: he doesn't yell nearly as much, although cussing is definitely a huge part of the way he communicates. Even the music is different! In the U.S. version, it basically has a theatrical soundtrack, but the BBC version is low on the theatrics and it seems much more realistic. The focus is actually on the improvement of the business/owners, who seem to me to be less of s**t heads and more willing to change in all honesty. You can tell he actually cares about the people and their business, and genuinely wants to help them succeed. If you like the U.S. KN, give the British version a go, and I swear the difference will just about kick you in the face.

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@mcowan3: that's just a layman's opinion as a silly joke. i don't know these people well enough to go beyond speculation. thanks for all the cool stuff you do though, i learned all about it in clinical psych this spring and pulled an A average for the most demanding coursework of my academic tenure so far.

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@andyskitty: this is the best media "scandal" i've seen in a long while. it just keeps getting better and better as the nets flow into FB/twitter/yelp or "THE REDDIT" to critique them, her, mainly. it's a perception of their skewed "reality" shattering thing, and i am proud to have witnessed it. best part? it's all them post show because they are that friggen nuts.

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@conanthelibrarian: "Illusions, Michael! Tricks are something a w(0e does for money." shocked children camera cut, Gob is clueless. "...or, candy!"

returns may 26th to netflix at 12:01A PST!!

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She's still at it. Check out the pizza photo and comments. Either they're trolling the whole internet or they are completely clueless.

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THIS IS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE. Happy Endings is getting seriously considered by USA for "saving" from the ABC cancellation on Friday, AND these dolts get bad press everywhere with a reddit AMA from the fired waitress here it's like a never ending happy day. i hope this isn't some coma I'm living out.

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@zuiquan: at 7:40 pm EST it says joined 4 hours ago LOL