questionsdoes anyone have a recommendation for a 6-adult…

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"Does anyone have a recommendation for a 6 adult cat?"

LOL. I thought you were looking for a cat that would be temperamentally suited for a household with six adults in it. Or maybe a snowplow that seats 6? I don't have any suggestions for a car that would comfortably seat 6 adults, I drive a Honda Civic coupe that only has to comfortably fit me, my best friend and my Great Dane. But I am facing a real challenge lately trying to fit everything I need into it to run an art booth on the weekends.

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I didn't notice until I got the first email reply that I wrote "cat" in the subject instead of "car". I don't seem to have any way to correct that, either. I expect I will get some amusing replies as a result of my typo.

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@lparsons42: Tattle on your question and ask for a correction from a mod.

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Honda Odyssey. If you can get past the "minivan" thing, they are great vehicles with a nice ride and great handling. If I had more kids I'd have one for sure.

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@nedreck: Good idea. I just tried it, hopefully someone can fix it for me.

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@zuiquan: I'm not strictly anti-minivan. I am, however, generally anti-Honda. I generally find their cars disappointing in comparison to the great fanfare they get. Sure, they run forever and get good fuel economy but they are most often epically boring to drive, IMHO. Granted, no 6 passenger car will be exciting, but I have driven Honda sedans that nearly put me to sleep with the way they disconnected me from any way of enjoying the drive (and Toyota even more so!)

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@lparsons42: You should ride with me. Plenty of people have found their way to prayer riding over Scenic Drive with me (a twisty mountain road with a drop-off on one side and a mountain on the other that I drive daily with great familiarity and confidence). Of course, I drive a stick with no "luxury upgrades", most of the time with the windows down and the radio off. I am anything but disconnected from the driving experience. Just this weekend I got heat from a guy in a Ferrari because I left his little red rocket in my rearview at a light and he had to come roaring past me a block later to show off his ride. I can't help it if guys in sports cars don't know where their gas pedal is.

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@lparsons42: I find my wife's Civic anything but boring. Sure, it's not like driving my BMW but it handles like a go-kart and cost about 25 grand less. If anything, I think I can feel the road a bit too much. But realistically, if you're talking about a people hauler, you're not going to get anything remotely exciting to drive. I test drove just about everything in Dodge's and Ford's lineup when I was over in Germany because you're a bit limited on choice dealing with military auto sales and there wasn't a single car I liked driving on the Autobahn or in town. It didn't help that I'd also driven Audi's lineup and the American cars definitely did not compare well. I guess that's why they make so many different vehicles though, there's going to be something for everyone.

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It got fixed? I was hoping to read some very clever recommendations for a 6 adult cat.

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I think that you may want to look at the Subaru Tribeca. Subaru's are all great cars to drive and everyone I know who has one loves it. I Think that they are some of the best driving cars around too.

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@philosopherott: About 25 yrs ago when I was shopping for my first new car I went and looked at little Subarus. The salesman wanted to show me the engine and I told him, "Don't bother, I don't know anything by looking at an engine, I have to make my evaluations based on specs". But he insisted and it was worth my time, because all the things that an average person should be able to identify and access, like the oil, filters, windshield wiper fluid etc, were brightly colored (orange as I recall) and stood out in sharp contrast against the dark engine. I thought it was simply ingenious, and the Subaru advanced considerably in my esteem. I still ended up buying my first Honda Civic, though, and drove it for 15 years till it stopped being able to pass Texas fuel emission standards, whereupon I took it to next door NM, which has no state inspection, and sold it for 1/6th my original purchase price cash money.

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Being on my 3rd Subaru Legacy Outback I can recommend Subaru highly. Subarus are awesome; we have sold our previous Outbacks at well over 200k miles and they were both still running strong. Our conversations with Tribeca owners have us ready to buy one as soon as a decent affordable used one becomes available in our area. There are tons of Subarus on the road so parts and service are usually inexpensive and readily available. Also there are a lot of independent mechanics who specialize in Subaru repair, especially in northern states where snow is an issue (all Subarus are all-wheel-drive so they are very popular in those regions).

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Stay away from Dodge Caravan based on my experience. Quality control issues=poor reliability. I have had a 96 and an 02, both with issues (transmission at less than 100k miles, entire ac system, suspension failure, and more). Currently driving a Honda Odyssey which seems better and have driven a Toyota minivan which drove better than the Honda. Maybe a Ford Flex?
I 2nd the Subaru based on research.

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I drive a '11 Odyssey and it's been good so far. Mixed mileage is mid 20s. Room for 2 adults and 4 car seats. It's technically an 8 passenger but the middle row center seat blocks access to the back row. The back row center seat is all of like 12 inches wide with car seats installed. It's the EX so has some nice options like power doors without getting into things like leather and video systems. I drove the Sienna also and it's definitely more the "driver's" car. The connection to the road was there and it's a little quicker than the Honda which rides like a cloud. I was looking for late model used of either model last year and the one we got was the first one that showed up in a reasonable distance.

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I won't argue with the Subaru fans here, except that I would like to know how you get 6 adults into a vehicle with front bucket seats. We certainly wouldn't get 6 adults into my wife's Forester or my friend's Outback.

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@moondrake: I drove a pair of Civic hatchbacks for 20 years; would have had each of them longer, except each was rear-ended into oblivion by careless drivers. After the second one was totaled, The Spouse and I decided we'd hit the age where folding ourselves into a Civic was too hard on our knees and backs, so we bought a CR-V.

It has an enormous amount of cargo space, gets great mileage, and is small enough to handle like a car. If you're thinking about upgrading for cargo capacity, we'd highly recommend the CR-V.

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@magic cave: Thanks. My Civic is still a baby at 6, and I don;t like driving anything but a compact (or sports car). I have toyed with the notion of getting a small trailer. I wish the City would just build a storage building on the art market site and let us store our furnishings in there. They could charge extra and use it to pay for insurance, and have a rule that no merchandise can be stored there. But the City is terrified of liability.

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Also have a 6 passenger Freestyle(not Freestar and not the 7 passenger Freestyle) anyway I'm also in the market for a replacement 6-7 passenger vehicle. I'd really prefer not a minivan but like you I might be talked into one(probably a Toyota or maybe Honda or maybe even a Caravan) but what I'm really waiting for is the '14 Ford Transit Connect. It will come in 2 sizes, 2 and 3 row extended version and have dual sliding doors(as apposed to our 4 door Freestyles). It will come with either a rear liftgate(which I like to protect one from rain when loading) or swing out doors(preferred by tradesman) for access in tight spaces. It will also have 2 engine choices(1.6L Ecoboost) or 2.5?? L, both 4 cylinder. It's promised to get at least 30mpg and is aimed more at the commercial market but anyone will be able to purchase it.
Unlike the current Turkish made Connect this one will be made in Spain and of course have the Ford name. It's supposed to be available this Spring, check Ford commercial.

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@bigelowb: I was talking about the Tribeca, which would hold 7 people.

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You might also want to check out the Ford Flex but it seems to be either a love it or loth it vehicle and they tend to get kind of expensive with the upper trim levels.
Oh and after reading todays Consumer Reports of the 10 least reliable vehicles and Ford had 4(I believe) it makes me wonder if I should be looking at another Ford.......but then again the Connect will be made in Spain so I don't know if that will be any better......
Lastly the '14 Connect really looks nothing like the boxy '13 Connect so if you don't like the looks of the old one don't let that sway you, the new one looks quite different.

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I have a '92 Cadillac Fleetwood that handles three in front and three in back easily. You could also probably put three in the trunk in a pinch. I'm lucky though, it's got 50k on the clock and has been garaged forever. Our other car is a Subaru wagon, and highly recommend them. It has almost three times as many miles as the Caddy, and is easily as tight and reliable. Dunno about the tribeca.

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@jjeff: My ford dealer just drove me to my bus stop in a Transit Connect; they use it as their parts / customer hauler. It will be interesting to see what the new one is like when it comes out, I'll keep an eye out for it as Ford has no minivan at all right now. The idea of a turbocharged people carrier definitely appeals to me but we'll have to see what its like in real life. Frankly I'd like the smallest possible 6 person car but since nobody makes a car with a front bench any more we're stuck looking at vans, SUVs and crossovers. As for the Flex, I think they're neat in all-black but my wife doesn't like them period so it doesn't really matter.

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@sstaylor: I once drove my uncle home in his 1970-something Cadillac ... I don't remember the model so we'll call it the Cadillac Battlecruiser. I think about 12 or so cows were killed for just the leather interior on that beast. It was around a quarter mile long and had such a cushy suspension that I could have ran over a herd of deer on my way home without having felt a single one of them. It handled like ... well it had roughly the turning radius of the planet Jupiter and I think the steering wheel turned five complete revolutions before you started to notice a change in direction so you can insert your own favorite adjective. I believe it has a 400-something cubic inch engine which was enough to get it to 55 in ... about a country mile. Thankfully you generally ran out of gas before you got going too fast for your own safety.

I know, its not the same as a 90s era Caddy, but I had to share the story.

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@jjeff: Its worth noting that the Consumer Reports reliability ratings are a bit flawed in terms of how they reflect the total owner experience.

I say this because they rate the total number of dealer (or shop) fixed problems of any kind. Literally they score a seized engine or failed transmission the same as a CD stuck in your stereo or a keyless entry remote being reprogrammed. Right now Ford is trying to improve their stereo / GPS / infotainment systems for all cars, and they are getting a lot of problems with that, which causes them to get the poor ratings on reliability. Now are the Ford systems the best on the market? Well, some include contributions from two companies I despise (Sony and Microsoft) so I would be inclined to say no. But a lot of cars are being sold with those systems so there is clearly demand for them.

I would say a better metric for reliability might be to compare (cost of ownership) / (cost of vehicle). Don't know many that do that for many.

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what lparsons42 said.
the "problems" that tanked the CR ratings had to dowith "myford touch" bugs. simple solution: get one with out the monster touchscreen(which really has no place in a car. there's a reason to have tactile buttons you can feel, instead of having to pull your eyes from the road while hurtling down the road)

My dad was recently in a similar situation, he had an '05 freestyle, and decided to replace it. for him cargo, and boat towing were a consideration, but that just put him looking @ roughly the same line up as you mentioned.
I suggested waiting for the '14 Transit connect. wouldn't do it. he started out wanting a Caravan, but ended up going back to Ford, and bought a '12 Explorer. (this gen explorer IS essentially the Taurus Wagon - same a the freestyle/Taurus X before it - Based on the same platform as the Taurus, built in the same Chicago Factory, Same Powertrain Choices, etc.) He went with the 3.5l Fwd. gets simlar Mileage as the freestlye. (3.0l Awd CVT)

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If the only reason you're upgrading is because your Flex is up in years & miles, I'd consider keeping it longer.

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@lparsons42: Very good point about the CR report review of the Fords. If they are selling 2x or more of a similar vehicle naturally they may have more failures than a model selling much less total and something like a stuck CD should not count nearly as much as a blown engine or failing transmission.
I also liked the front bench seat of yesteryear but other than maybe pickups(which also seem to be abandoning them in favor of buckets) they seem to be gone forever :(

I figured you would have known of the Flex but thought I'd mention it anyway. I agree the black Flex is nice looking but I also know "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and not everyone feels that way ;) I sat in a fully loaded Flex at last years auto show and it was a real beauty, black with black leather, sun roof, etc. etc.,I think it even had a little refrig between the seats but I could be wrong as I sat in lots of cars. I do remember it was very quiet inside when I closed the doors, could hardly hear outside noise

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@earlyre: I am not a big fan of the monster touch screens either. It is nice to have built in GPS though. One thing I've noticed is that the monster touch screens have a lot of the stereo (and sometimes even A/C) functions on the steering wheel, which helps but the screen can still be a distraction. Interesting that in the name of "safety" the only thing you can't change on the touchscreen while driving is the destination in the GPS.

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Honda Pilot. We love our '03 and my dad liked ours so much he got a '10 when his vehicle got totaled. Seats 8, rides comfortably, and drives well. I'm pretty big into the total feel of a vehicle and this is one of the better drives. We had four kids in car seats and regularly have two car seats in the third row seating. I've also ridden comfortably in the third row and I'm 6'1".

The past few model years fuel economy has improved a decent amount. It would definitely fit your space requirements and doesn't feel or drive like a minivan. And you would have two spare seats just in case. I recommend you test drive one.

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@jjeff: LOL. You couldn't give that car away around here. You see a black car with a black interior and you know if belongs to an Army guy. No one who's actually experienced a desert summer would choose a car that will get up to 150-160 degrees inside while parked. The steering wheel will blister your hands and the nice leather seat will burn your legs.

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We just sold our Ford Freestar and bought a Chevy Traverse. Bigger than you need, but DH was required to get something with particular specs for his new job and this was the best deal that met the requirements. Drives well, comfy, etc. Middle seat has to be pulled down in order to fit people in the third seat, but that's usually ok with kids. A better deal in the Chevey family is the Equinox which is supposed to seat 7.

Personally, I drive a Hyundai Sante Fe. It's supposed to seat 7, too, but I don't really know how. Great car, though!

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@belyndag: I have an '08 Santa Fe with the touring package.....there is a fold-down third-row seat that is your luggage compartment otherwise. It will seat two people but we have rarely needed to do so. BTW, I absolutely love this vehicle and I'm thinking about getting a newer model.

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@robingraves: I love mine, too. It was my retirement gift from DH. He drives for work (outside sales) and is considering swapping with me since my Santa Fe gets better mileage. Makes sense, but DANG! I'll miss my Santa Fe!