questionswill joe paterno be remembered more for his…


admittedly, the scandal is something that I skimmed over briefly and didn't read too much into the details, but I think it was blown out of proportion. My take was that all of the parties involved were adults and were capable of deciding whether or not they were comfortable with whatever they were being subjected to

EDIT: I know that there will be plenty that are going to disagree. This is just my opinion and should only be taken as such.


I think he will be remembered more for his coaching legacy, however that legacy will always be somewhat tainted because of the scandal.


Given what I know about it, Paterno did report the actions he was aware of to his supervisor. Should he have done more? Probably, yes. Do I hold that against him? No, he's not the guilty party here, the guy that diddled the boys is.

I really hope it doesn't define his legacy, but I fear it's going to.


@capguncowboy: All parties involved were adults, except for the kids getting raped in the shower.

I couldn't have told you who Joe Paterno was before the scandal, but now I'll never forget. He's the football coach that allowed (by doing nothing about it) one of his subordinates to rape children in his locker room, got fired for it, then died in disgrace.


To the greater population, he will live on as part of a scandal for a couple more months.

After that, to the football community, he will again be remembered as one of (if not 'the') greatest college football coaches of all time. As a society, we tend to forgive quickly after death.

@capcuncowboy - Well disagreeing is one way to say it, but your facts are way off course (read: wrong). The kids are adults now, but they weren't when they were subjected to sexual assault and rape. I think you should read a bit more into the case; it's actually a fairly interesting, though disturbing, story.


I think he will be remembered for his coaching, but this will always be brought up (rightfully) as a caveat to his career. He made a bad decision to not push the investigation when he had the chance.


@meh3884: Two words: OJ Simpson. Nobody remembers how good of a running back he was, they just remember that he's the guy who "allegedly" murdered his ex-wife and her lover.


@captainsuperdawg: Yeah except he was the one directly charged. Paterno isn't charged with anything or guilty of anything. He had a, albeit serious, moral faux pas. I think it is a distinctly different situation. (edit: Don't get me wrong, I do believe seriously he should have done more. But this is just how I think it will pan out. The whole world hated OJ. Paterno has a huge number of supporters still behind him. And he was much more than being a good athlete for a few years, he's a 50 year coaching legend at an enormous university. And he's now dead of cancer. To me, that's a decisive factor on how society treats someone morally or otherwise guilty)

Two words: Michael Jackson. He was publicly crucified for years. Now, after death, while his scandals are still brought up, he is again being remembered constantly for his musical contributions rather than his alleged mistakes. In the music world, he is again the "king of pop".


It's sad to see a man die after his life is taken from him.

Admittedly, ignorance is only bliss when you're truly ignorant and he wasn't in this case. It is too bad that his legacy will always have an * next to it and will never be what it would have been had he passed away 1 year ago. I doubt you'll see his name all over university buildings, etc, etc...

But you can't deny his coaching history, one for the books.


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I hope he is remembered for nothing BUT the chiild RAPE scandal. It will send a clear message to others who are put in a similar situation that putting a sports program before the the rape of a child will not be tolerated. ANY human being that finds out a 10 yr old boy is being raped (not molested, but actually forcibly restrained and raped) and never contacts law enforcement is an evil human being who deserves to rot in hell. ANYONE who then tries to stand up for him and make excuses as to what he was required by law to do is also scum who should lose their membership card in the human race. We will never now fully how many children were raped, and how many may have committed suicide because of it. Paterno had a chance to put a stop to it, and didn't. I hope his football accomplishments at Penn state are erased from the collective memory of out entire country.


Realistically, it will depend on who is doing the remembering.

If you went to Penn State, or have some emotional tie to Penn State, you will probably remember him primarily for his coaching achievements and all the good he did for the school.

If you have no attachment to Penn, you will probably forever associate him with the scandal.


Of course both will always be mentioned together, but I will always think of him having all that power and influence over that university, and not using it when it could have done the most good. I dream of having such influence someday, because I know if I was presented with a situation like he was, I would do all I could to make the situation right. I can not imagine how someone who is regarded as such a man of integrity didn't do more. Makes one wonder if his image was a complete fraud. And if that is the case, all he is left with is winning a bunch of football games, and there are a LOT more important things in the world than that.


Unfortunately, he'll be remembered for his coaching because society in general has the memory of a goldfish. Just look at how revered Michael Jackson has already become.


@rprebel: This is why I hate comments from people who read 1 storyline

First of all, sandusky was not part of the university or the football team. He hadn't been for years. Sandusky was not his subordinate, anymore than someone who goes into my office at work is my subordinate.

Second, Paterno is the head football coach. He does answer, in some ways, to the athletic director and the President, as well as the Board of trustees. So many people forget that they were trying to can Paterno about 3 years ago. Paterno told his boss, who failed to do anything.

Third, if you knew nothing of paterno before this occurred, all you know of him and the university is the drivel that comes out of the media hype storm.

Fourth, the trustess fired him for what? Scapegoat.

You know the press people were salivating over this. I absolutely loved seeing those morons stand outside the courtroom waiting for something to report about for the preliminary hearing. Morons, almost everyone waves it.


I will remember him for having provided cover for a child rapist. His football legacy means nothing to me.

Apologists say he did everything he was supposed to do by reporting it to his superiors but come on, Joe Paterno RAN Penn State. He was told about a violent sexual assault on a child in his building and didn't do much of anything about it, he even kept a professional relationship with Jerry Sandusky and giving him access to the building and Penn State facilities.

Sorry but Joe Paterno's legacy is and should be a legacy of shame.


@ecriscit: First, Sandusky was emeritus and had an office and keys to the athletic facilities. He was certainly still involved at the university. He was a guest at Penn State bowl games and was in the press box during Paterno's record breaking win. In all that time it is implausible that he and Paterno never crossed paths.
Second, Paterno was not your average football coach. His longevity and fame gave him influence well-beyond any other coach. If all he did was tell his boss, then never think of it again, especially since Sandusky was still hanging around, then he was a failure as a moral human being.
Third, I know plenty about Paterno. He was always held up as the example of how to do things right. All of that image is shattered by his inaction.
Fourth, it was his arrogant statement that he would retire, and the BOT should not worry about him anymore, made them realize what a liability he would be going forward. So he was terminated immediately.


I had never heard of him before the scandal. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Think about this. Before the scandal, who had heard about this guy? Football fans and folks associated with Penn State.

Sure there are a lot of football fans out there, but it's not everyone.

Now that the scandal has broken, you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE, football fan or not who hasn't heard of this guy and the associated scandal. Given that fact, it's hard to see how his lasting legacy will be football and not the scandal.