questionspet people! tell me of flea ridding?

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They are not able to leave the house for some time in order to use the bombs?
It would seem they have to control the spread of the flea cycle by using stuff like Advantage on the animals first.
There are sprays that can be used in specific areas that claim to be safe around children and pets. Though I do not have exp. with any. However I was told to avoid Hartz products.

Not sure how Borax works on fleas though. Maybe someone else has experience with that?

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The only way to get ahead of the fleas is chemical warfare. All of the "natural" techniques are worthless. Borax and Diatomaceous Earth simply contribute to dust in the household. If you are not going to use "chemicals" you have already lost the war because you have tied your hands and feet and donnned a blindfold.

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seconded to @nortonsark. Really, the best way is prevention. Tell them to capstar the critters to kill the fleas, then treat monthly with frontline or advantage/advantix. Our neighbor animals are all infested, but treatment of our animals has kept the scourge at bay.

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The previous owners of the house I own left the basement window open so their dog could come and go as he pleased... The result was a Major flea infestation...
We bombed the house several times, mostly the basement as they kept reappearing there... The bombs killed live fleas not the eggs...
Your friends need to treat all of the pets first and then treat the house including vacuuming to get the eggs...
The only non-toxic way I know of to kill the fleas is to drown them... A large flat dish with soapy water in it, 9x9 or 9x13 baking dish will work, and a lit candle in the center as a heat source to attract the fleas... Our basement has a concrete floor and we placed the dish in an area free of combustibles... Check occasionally for little dead flea bodies...

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I was infested once by a neighbor, I tried borax and some of the other 'natural' remedies to no avail. A lot of vacuuming, laundry, flea bomb and Frontline prevailed. Maybe a better chance at a vet for bathing or dipping cats. I gave mine baths but it still didn't rid them of the scourge.

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We just had a flea problem with our 4 dogs, used Advantix and it pretty much wiped them out of the whole house.

Edit: If you aren't going to use chemicals/pesticides, you stand a better by just asking them nicely to leave.

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I agree with above, the absolute first step needs to be to treat the pets with real flea medication, like Front Line. It isn't cheap cause it actually works. Those collars and cheap sprays can actually harm your pets and will do nothing to the fleas.

Sprinkling borax on the carpets and furniture and vacuuming actually did seem to help us in college when we took care of a friends cat who was invested for a few days. Wash clothes and sheets in hot water. Norton doesn't seem to agree, but my vet said borax works great at dehydrating and killing egg sacs in the carpet. I'm actually more skeptical of the effectiveness of bombs and would prefer to get all the animals and kids out of the house and spray a real pesticide. But treating the animals with a good flea med will work wonders and might even be enough if they aren't severely infested.

edit: it's also worth noting that if any of the animals go outdoors ever, then all the animals should be treated with flea medication monthly.

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Frontline is extremely effective. It or something equivalent must be used to kill the eggs. If you don't kill the eggs you never really solve the problem.

To work on the fleas, I find a large bowl of water next to a night light (must be an incadecent bulb) works well. However, you must treat the pet because the natural ways to kill the fleas won't get them all and then they lay eggs and you get MORE fleas.

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These are some really good suggestions so far, I've passed the thread on to her and have good hopes between some of these ideas and some vet provided topicals that this will be just one of those "annoying things not planned for her day" issues. :)

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Interesting read....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea

Flea
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fleas are the insects forming the order Siphonaptera. They are wingless, with mouthparts adapted for piercing skin and sucking blood. Fleas are external parasites, living by hematophagy off the blood of mammals and birds.

Some flea species include:

Cat flea (Ctenocephalides felis)
Dog flea (Ctenocephalides canis)
Human flea (Pulex irritans)
Moorhen flea (Dasypsyllus gallinulae)
Northern rat flea (Nosopsyllus fasciatus)
Oriental rat flea (Xenopsylla cheopis)

Over 2,000 species have been described worldwide.[2]

The entire Wiki posting would take more than ten comment postings...

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I've had fleas both with dogs and without. When we didn't have dogs, we got an infestation which starting biting the kids. We ended up borrowing a treated dog (Advantage) to help us break the flea cycle. So I agree, medicate your pets to break the flea egg laying cycle.

Then, to get rid of existing fleas, vacuum (and empty the bag and dispose of promptly), vacuum, vacuum. I also washed clothes and bedding. A lot. I was tossing in a generous scoop of Borax into the load as well.

So, medicate, laundry, vacuum. Repeat. Especially those last two.

We borrowed a dog for a weekend and laundered and vacuumed for two weeks and got rid of our problems.

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@smasumur: Ha, well she has two dogs so I don't think she needs to borrow one, but that's a really novel approach!

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@inkycatz: I felt bad that I was making this dog itch (I gave extra treats to somehow compensate), but man, it really did the trick.

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Having 4 in and out dogs, this could be me. However, we treat the yard for pests each season (or quarter) and the house 2 times a year. This has solved that problem apparently.

SO I would go a bit further than the above suggestions. Once you have the fleas under control, treat the yard. Remember to treat the yard every season change or 3 months for those of us that have no seasons. We have it professionally done, but any home improvement store should have what is needed for this problem.

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Pro tip: Indoor kittehs don't get fleas!

I have seen people do the soapy water in a pan with a desk lamp pointed over it. Doesn't seem very effective.
I don't know why they're against chemicals. Tree-huggin' hipsters? If you can't bomb, use flea powder on the carpet and vacuum often. Also vacuum the furniture. If you grab one between your finger and thumb, you can't squash it. Instead, rub your thumb and finger together and that'll kill it dead.
You're going to have to treat the pets somehow. Flea baths, frontline, or flea collar at the very least.

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Here's a very informative comment by a vet I found on reddit while fighting my own flea battle. It's kind of long but it's worth the read. He or she does mention that lemon does not work by the way. :)
http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/xidr4/til_that_lemon_extract_will_kill_fleas_naturally/c5mru9g

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@inkycatz love how you referenced the kid as a pet...don't worry we sometimes refer to ours as pets as well

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We were attacked with fleas a while ago and here's what we used to rid them.

1. Put salt on the furniture cushions. The fleas crawl on the salt and cut themselves on it.

2. At night put a plate with water and dishwashing liquid in the middle of the floor, turn off all the lights in the room and mount a light right over the plate. The fleas will go towards the light, jump in the plates and drown. You'll be suprised by how many fleas you'll catch that way.

3. The best thing we found to work is RAID flea and tick killer. I soaked our furniture in it and it killed the rest and we haven't seen one since.

On the cat we use Frontline for flea protection. We tried Hartz UltraGuard after the Frontline ran out to save a few bucks and the only thing it did was make the cat greasy. After we found a few fleas on the cat back to Frontline we went.

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FYI, tell your friend that the animals aren't the only thing that carries fleas. We run a business out of our home and our infestation wasn't from our cat, it was from our employee at the time dragging them in. I almost went bonkers trying to kill these things before I figured out the source.

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@joe43wv: For #2, I might add that it's more effective if you can use an incandescent bulb. Theory is the fleas are drawn to the heat it generates. Back in the day, it used to work for me but I tried it recently and could only find CFLs. Didn't catch many.

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We have used the light over a low dish of water and it works OK in that area for live fleas.

Tip for the flea meds...You can get a larger dose of the brand you choose and then put the correct dose on your pet. Google the brand and cat or dog for more information specif to your pet situation. Please note that some are for dogs only and some can be used on both. My Mom's groomer for her dogs gave her this tip. The groomer buys in bulk and portions out for her clients.

We have two cats, one fatty and one skinny. I got a package for exlarge and a syringe to get the correct amount for each of my babies. You also need a small glass bottle to keep the remander for next time.

Research carefully! Plenty of info out there. I agree with the above posts, no Hartz. Use Frontline or Advantage/Avantix it is worth the extra up front. Best price I found was Amazon around a year ago.

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Most of the vets in my area seem to agree that "our" fleas are almost totally resistant now to Advantage and Advantix. (We'd used it successfully for years and a few months ago it just stopped working.) We're now on Frontline, which does the job well, but our vet is encouraging us to switch to trifexis (at $20 per monthly pill!) which kills both fleas and heartworms, which are a year-round problem here in Florida.

Someone earlier suggested Capstar; it's great for killing fleas virtually immediately, but it's a one-day-only pill and therefore best for use at the same time any other house-wide treatment is being conducted and/or to kickstart a topical flea killer.

For other suggestions on getting rid of fleas in the house, try here: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-get-rid-of-fleas/ . I agree with @nortonsark (why not, since he's the professional on pet care!) on the use of pesticides and chemicals. Without them, your friends are trying to stop the tide with a whisk broom.

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@joe43wv: You soaked your furniture in Raid?? What kind of furniture? Is there any problem with skin contact with Raid-soaked stuff?

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I never argue with a professional...@nortonsark has the correct answer.

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Food-grade Diametaceous Earth on your welcome mats and pet beds can help too.

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@magiccave I sprayed everything down and let it dry before sitting on it. I misquoted it was HOT SHOT bedbug and flea killer that I used.

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My super holistic, anti-every chemical known to man, vet gave me frontline for my dog when she had fleas. If he resigned himself to topical treatments then that's pretty much the only choice.

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The first step is to get rid of the cat :) Then try the other great suggestions of the previous posters.

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@dragonsfire82: Two cats, two dogs, yeah, I don't think my pet loving friend is inclined to get rid of any animals at this stage. :)

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As for a less chemical way to get rid of fleas on the animals themselves. Use the blue dawn dish soap and bath the animals (this can even be done on kittens/puppies). It works best if you scrub/leave it on them for a few minutes like "regular" fleas baths. Then brush the animal out with a flea comb. Most that you find should be dead but keep a little dish of alcohol (like rubbing alcohol...) and drop the live fleas in there to kill them. This will kill the live fleas only so you will need to repeat every few days for a couple weeks so you get all the laid eggs.
More trouble than ones with strong pesticides but less chemicals introduced to your home.
The only other things I know are borax, diameteceous earth, and the shallow pan of dish soap/water which have all been previously mentioned.