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You should contact your local Fair Housing authority, this might help:

The only reason I could see charging more for an extra person would be if the landlord is paying your utilities.


landlord pays utilities but 200 dollars a month seems a bit much for one person's utilities


The rent is too damn high


Truthfully, I think you are going to get free advice here that is worth what you are paying for it. Ask a lawyer....

To expect people here to know PA law is assuming a lot.


I hate when this pricing model exists. Kind of like hotel rooms. The only thing it does is punish those of us who are honest.

If the utilities are the issue, he should seperate that from the rent. The only reason the landlord should be concerned is if you have too many people for that size space from a safety standpoint. But then it shouldn't matter about the rate because he should just not allow you to rent at all if that's the real concern.

That being said, while I think that pricing model is dumb, I do think the landlord should be allowed to charge what and how he wants. Assuming it is his private property and he is not acting discriminatorially, the landlord should get to decide how the property is used. I realize that there may be some local laws about it, but I generally prefer to see property rights and freedom over rent control issues.


@morriea: It's okay. I'm an expert. Trust me. :)


Why not just look for another place?

Even if you were granted the right to live there for $800/month, I doubt you would want to.


@lichme: Apparently you have never lived in NYC. Small 1 bedrooms go for $2500 and a decent size 2 bedroom goes for $6000. So $1000 is a steal!

It is legal to change rental rates based on the person, but you'd have to read the lease agreement and contact your local government to find out if it's legal to price rent per people vs the space. If the landlord wants to charge you $200 for utilities, just take the $800/mnth and pay the utilities yourself.


All about the Lease. If you can post a copy I am sure some fine Legal Wooters will take a look.
If you have not rented the property yet, the person is allowed to charge by the number of occupants/rooms.However, there may be certain local authority governance controlling this.


I can't imagine why it would be illegal for someone to charge what they want to to rent out property they own unless it's higher/lower based on your color/religion/other protected thing.

It's theirs, after all. They may figure the extra person is added utilities, possible wear-n-tear and risk which they value it at that.


That's a funny video clip. I have to agree, rent is way too damn high. That's why I paid way too too damn much and bought an apartment.

I'm still trying to figure out what being a karate expert has to do with the rent is too high political party? Guess you have to be a crook, sorry politician, to get that ;)


I would think that the ad should have stated "$400 per person" if that is the way the owner sees it. Three can live as cheaply as two as far as housing and utilities go.


I think the main point of this legal argument is simply that, they currently have no lease with the landlord! They were simply inquiring an ad they saw.

So, the only current legal question is can the landlord advertise one price then change it? And that answer is yes! The ad price is simply an asking price assuming all conditions are met. If a house has an asking price of $200,000, just because you offer that doesn't make it yours. The landlord/homeowner can change any terms until a lease or agreement is signed.


I would think it would be legal, provided it's not in a rent-control district and its not discriminating solely on a protected class.

More people mean more utilities, more wear & tear, etc...


It's definitely legal. The ad is merely a solicitation for offers and in no way binds the landlord to the advertised rate. It is not false advertising as in some instance the landlord may rent for that price, but there are many factors when your the owner to consider. Certain demographics or jsut increased number of people or age groups will treat a property different than others and that is wwhere the landlord makes a decision what i a reasonable rent. Just like the depoist can change based on what the landlord thinks is fair. The easiest way to look at it is to put yourself in the landlord's shoes and think of of who your ideal tenant would be and the rent and then would you charge a different rate to another group of occupants? Say a 50 yr old widow the same as a single parent with 3 kids btween the ages of 1-5, would you charge the same rent knowing what kids that age can do to a place?


What @oompaloompa18 said. They cannot charge more for people who are in a protected class (race, gender, creed). A landlord can charge more based on the number of individuals in the property. It does make sense. Three adults will (on average) have about 50% more wear on the property than will two. This means a shorter life for the dishwasher (if present) carpets, hot water heater, plumbing, and the like. Charging 20% more doesn't seem that unreasonable.