questionsthoughts on the apple ipad?

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10437328-71.html I quickly googled this, to find out what it was. I also saw an article from PC Magazine saying that this device might kill Kindle. Hmm be back later for more discussion.

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It's awesome, but the 3G models are overpriced. Get the Wi-Fi one for $499 and you can't go wrong. The iPhone cost more than that when it first came out! I hope to see more of these in the future (although they really are just giant iPod touches with a bit more screen real estate and horsepower :P).

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@fidett: I believe that the same people who like the iPhone (I'm not one of them) will like this (I still won't be one of them). Kindle killer? Doubtful. When they all get together and finish with their common standard, and I can use any device to read whatever is available for electronic material, I may go for something (as long as it isn't too bulky).

Don't get me wrong. I like apple stuff. I think that this will be popular. I just don't want it myself.

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No contract for 3G is a big plus for those who would use it. I won't own one, though. My smartphone does just about everything this does, and it (pseudo)multitasks, takes pictures, and makes phone calls.

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Apple blew it. They had the opportunity to create something truly groundbreaking, and all they came up with, was literally a big iPod Touch/iPhone.

Take a look at some of the new PC tablets that were shown off at CES, and you'll have a good idea of what the iPad could have been.

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@hobbit: I personally like the non-glare/no back-light feature of Kindle. It is great for reading text... As far as the iPad... looks like another expensive thing for me to buy and accidentally drop or spill something on.

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@josefresno: I want a kindle I am just waiting for it to settle so I don't have five of them around the house like I do iPods. With all the reading I do I can see the benefits for bigger books although I might miss turning the pages.

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@pismodude2: I don't quite see what's so awesome about it. Yes, it is a beautiful looking tablet. Yes, I have an iPhone and I quite like the iPhone OS (including all the jailbroken capabilities). This just didn't appeal to me. Steve Jobs started off by saying how netbooks suck. Well, all they did was build a netbook and put a fancy touch screen where the keyboard should be. The only difference is that my Dell Mini has a webcam, a physical keyboard, can connect to 3G (with some mod-ing that I have not done), and can multitask. May I also add that my netbook runs OSX wonderfully :)

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@josefresno: I agree 100%. The point of the Kindle and other e-readers is that they are supposed to mimic the feel of reading an actual book. After reading for any period of time on this tablet would probably end up giving me a headache.

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as if how much was missing from it was bad enough, it's ridiculously overpriced as well. If it had another OS besides the iPhone OS it would be interesting to me, but the iPhone OS? REALLY? I own one right now and its utterly Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966). No camera, no multitasking, and no native flash support?

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@ftapia: Good point. I forgot to mention that also. No flash!

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@hobbit: Kindle, heh I am still reading books.

This thing looks like a "big button phone" Iphone for the eldery.

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I'm not sold at all. Don't get me wrong, I think that there is a real market for this type of thing. BUT, for me... No dice. I want a computer and not an oversized iPod Touch.

Its basically an advanced crippled iPhone...

No open OS, No sale.

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the OS will open up, it will get unlocked. Just like I have multitasking on my 3gs , it will come to the iPad. The only killer for me is the flash. No flash-no sale!

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and my feeling on the camera - they are saving that for the next version, just like saving features in the iPhones, its a business strategy.

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No multi-task and no flash? Ridiculous.

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There are so many tablet PCs that have much better functionality than this thing. It's not quite a computer, and not quite a phone and for $499 or more I'd rather have something more useful.

I got a tablet PC from HP a few months ago for $750. It has a keyboard, a stylus, touch screen games, way more than 64gb of storage, and HP actually worked on developing a few apps of their own including a Hulu player which I love. Those are just the basics and I can use it as a computer or tablet at any time.

This, like most of what Apple comes out with is just overpriced garbage. The only way this would be useful is if you travel a lot and want an easy way to enjoy media. Then again, without a CD-rom drive and needing to sync it to a computer with iTunes to update it, I'd rather get a Kindle and a portable DVD player and pocket the extra $100.

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While this is obviously not of interest to a lot of folks that would frequent the geek sites and need powerful computing devices, I think that the real beauty of this device is just the fact that it is so simple. $500 for a media player or kindle no way, but a $500 computer that takes care of almost all of the needs of students. Heck yeah!

10 hour charge
beautiful screen
external keyboard capable
no stylus needed
wifi or 3g so you can compute anywhere
specifically designed for email, pics, and movies

I think this is a game changer.

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@dj3g1990: You mean a computer that takes care of NO needs of students. As a recent college grad, I feel very comfortable in saying that there are absolutely no projects that do not require multitasking. Any research project in any field. Please, somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I cannot picture the iPad being used as an educational tool.

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@fidett: emailing during class, YET looking like you are taking notes on a think pad?

totally kidding. It does sound like a giant touch iPod for Sr Citizens. or something.

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@fidett: Agreed, I have never done less than 5 things on a computer ever.

Also, the no stylus needed is kind of a dumb logic. I have a tablet and while I don't need a stylus to scroll or click I find it really useful when I want to use it to write or draw anything. Isn't that why people get tablets? So they can write things - in my math and econ classes I couldn't use a regular computer to take notes bc it was too hard to draw graphs and equations, hence the tablet. Without a stylus, you still wouldn't be able to do that so what's the point? I'm sure artists feel the same way~

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Well, after further consideration (and discovering that I'd have to give EXTRA $$$ for a keyboard), I say again. There are people who will love this thing, and I'm not one of them.

BTW, for those of you who think this will be good for the elderly, it will not. Hands become less dextrous, and vision more precarious. A keyboard is far easier to manage than a touch screen. Pretend you have a little palsy, and then try and center your finger on a space on the screen. Double plus ungood.

I see that there are already two deals (at least) on the site for an iPad, but my favorite recommended/similar deal, according to their wonderful similarity algorithm, is... wait for it...

http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/fdff4f2e-5d86-416e-8e54-acd5f1e22db8/6-classic-horror-films-hosted-by-elvira-and-you-thought-halloween-was-over

Effervescent synchronicity.

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Here is my post from the iPad deal.woot.com posting

No multitasking, no USB, no card reader, no webcam, no flash support, no blutooth, no IR, only 64gigs of space max(for a total of maybe 15 movies) and space is not expandable.

The only ports this thing has is an audio jack and a proprietary Apple port. If you want USB or any other connectivity options, you will need to buy Apples Apple-to-USB device which will cost you at least $20 more than what you wanted to spend.

ebooks on this will be just as painful to read as ebooks on a regular back-lit screen.

Save your money and get a netbook that does everything this thing does. If you are a big apple fan, buy a netbook and install MacOS onto your netbook (google hackintosh).

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Anyone notice it uses some custom system on a chip processor that Apple has developed? Almost feels like Apple is stepping back in time to when they had IBM make them those Power PC processors.

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As someone who owned a Windows-based tablet in the past, I can tell you tablets are the answer to a question no one is asking.

As others have said, there are so many limitations to this thing it's not even funny. The overall problem with it is that it is a very niche product that no one is going to want. The lack of a keyboard makes it too annoying to use for any period of time. Everyone thinks touch is great, but like it or not, people have become VERY adept at using a keyboard for input.

It can't be your primary computer, it's too limiting. So I need another computer, and I need a separate cell phone. If I want minimal computing power any modern smartphone will do that. If I need a machine I can do real work on, I can get a netbook or a full fledged notebook for the same price.

There's a reason there are so few tablets are out there now, and it's not because they run Windows.

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Over time Apple will add the goodies folks are asking for...the Apple-istas will be in line for these on day one and in the fall they will sell 'em on Craislist to get the iPadII with camera, flash, etc.

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Hmmm....interesting, but I would wait till they come out with a few more generations, hahaha and improve on or add some things. What I DO wish they'd make is an Apple netbook w touchscreen- like the iPad but that does at least everything that a netbook would do just using the touchscreen instead of a mouse and keyboard or whatever.

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They didn't actually launch anything. They just shrunk Steve Jobs.

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No phone. No camera. No Flash support. No USB port. No keyboard. No multitasking. No open OS. No thanks. It's a $700 paperweight that also plays music and video!

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My two cents... The new iPhone OS is is set to release later on this year, more than likely in the not-so-distant future. So everyone who is complaining about lack of Flash or multitasking needs to look at it from the perspective of Apple. If they were to release the iPad with multitasking and flash they would have completely given away the newest iPhone OS (assuming that the 4.0 update includes both (highly likely)). Ideally they would have released them both today, and could have avoided many of the nay-sayers but hey-- it's Apple. They do what they want.

As much as I don't want to, I know I'll be buying one. I just can't keep away from the Apple gadgets, especially one that is priced so cheap (relatively). I'm sure by August it will end up in my electronic closet, along with all my other once gorgeous and new Apple toys (old iPhones, Macbook Airs, Time Capsules, and Apple TVs, it's like the freaking Apple store in there). But I'll look damn good sporting it around for a while.

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If you are willing to sacrifice most of the creature comforts of a computer for size...then just get a MacBook Air. At least you can do something other than websurf with it.

Someone posted the note about a Kindle. I LOVE my Kindle. It is almost cult status. If you have been thinking about getting one and are on the fence...get it. I bought my Kindle 2 on preorder...I havent regretted it once. One of the best devices - hands down - ever.

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@momof3monsters: mom from what I understand that is what the ipad is supposed to do. according to the Apple God, I mean Steve Jobs.

From The Onion because I couldn't resist and apparently NPR thought it was funny: http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up

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The geeks may rail on all the "important" features they must have on this thing, but here's the deal: this is perfect for my wife. We currently share my MBP so if I'm out or traveling she doesn't have a computer. Neither one of us will ever go back to Windows again, so a netbook is out, and I don't want to shell out $999 for a MacBook when all she really does is email, FB and watch movies. Now I can get her a device that does all of this, is half the price of a MacBook and she really likes because it's small enough to go with her in her purse. I agree with a previous commenter, iPhone OS 4.0 will cover many of the issues like multi-tasking and Flash. The iPad makes it much more conducive for Apple to focus on these issues now, especially with a 10-hour battery. Do I want one? Not for my primary machine at all, I need my MBP for all kinds of reasons. But now, I can get my wife a great Apple product to fit her needs at a great price-point. Plus I can play with it too! If only Netflix...

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Until Apple makes a product with a battery I can replace, this is just so much tech junk, waiting to gather dust somewhere. I love my ipod, don't get me wrong, but a device that I can't swap a battery out of is a device I'm not going to give anyone money for.

Well, except for a new ipod, maybe... okay, okay, I lied.

I don't need a big hulking itouch, thanks. Besides, the name is flat STUPID.

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Totally agreed. It is what it is. Apple is famous for putting something out without everything it is capable of. Sure, they probably build in a camera on the next generation, but I also bet somebody puts out a camera that plugs into the dock connector. And yes, iPhone OS 4.0 will hit this summer and probably allow multitasking and flash, once they do that, iPad OS 2.0 will come out and do the same thing. So, I will probably not buy this generation, mainly because I know I will want a new iPhone this summer and I can only afford one or the other, but I will buy a second generation iPad next year with a camera and probably a usb slot or two. But if I had the money, I would totally be in for one.

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I'm going to keep my mind open until I see one up close and personal. I read a lot of junk for work, and a lot of that is (and sometimes needs to be) in color. I'll save a lot of weight and a lot of trees if the screen gives a good reading experience.

... And if I can check out the woot-off over 3G when I get bored reading, that's gravy.

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okay so I have been reading up on this. finally, and basically an iPad is an eReader on steriods, with the added bonus of being a netbook. Hmmmmmm I like the Kindle and I have been wanting one, but considering that I have been an Apple user for a long time, even though I own a PC, I might have to buy the iPad it will serve two needs the eReader and the netbook.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=30150&tag=nl.e539

@heymo: I so didn't even think of that until now I just thought how the name fits with the Apple brand iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad ...

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@hobbit: Neither did I or my Y chromosome until I saw the article...

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@heymo: being female myself it just never even popped into my head really. Really some people need to think about the branding, it is a bit cutesy of Apple yes but what else were they going to call it? iBook? iNet? iBookNet?

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The iPad just proves what The Onion said when the macbook Air was released...if it's shiny and made by apple, people will buy it...well, come March/June, there will be hundreds of thousands of people buying the most overpriced touch-screen iPod ever. I will not be one of them

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I love my Kindle, but I am glad I did not pay for it because most likely I will be switching over from Kindle to iPad!

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@hobbit: iDunno. iTablet might have been used to evoke an image of Steve Jobs handing it down to us from Mt. Sinai (but could have fallen prey to iPill jokes). And iHaveMoreMoneyThanSense is too long.

Maybe they should call it what it is: iOpenedAPortalIntoYourWallet. At the end of the day, the Kindle and all of Apple's iLine (iPod, iPhone, iPad) are really just products that make it easier for them to sell you content.

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@heymo: iLike my iPod, I can't imagine not having it. I would have gone back to driving myself to work every day instead of taking public transit. It keeps me sane on the bus while people are talking, because I think it should be illegal to talk at 6am.

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I think the whole deal was a lot of hype for something not so hot. It's a big iPhone with a reader. Maybe a little snappier with the new processor. Bottom line for me is that there's no market for anything between my netbook and my smart phone.

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Well, here's the truth that I think everyone is avoiding. Whether you like it or not, there are plenty of hardware manufacturers working overtime to make a better iPad.

Newspaper and Magazine publishers already have their developers making apps to deliver their content on the newest Apple product.

The same could have been said about the iPod -- overpriced, singular function, and pretty but no real power. Plus you have to buy the songs from Apple? Now iPod is still the standard even though there are hundreds of mp3 players out there.

I predict that it will be the print apps (books, magazine -- especially interactive magazine, and newspaper) and the new gaming platform that will make this a gamechanger and just as several have said, the OS will take the shape of the wants of its users and the creativity of its developers.

Like it or hate it, I have little doubt that it will change the way you interact with media.