questionsdo you come to a complete stop at stop signs or…

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I stop. I hate it when people don't.

However, the "stop" signs painted on parking lots are a different story.

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When I took drivers ed, the cop riding with me told me you can't get pulled over for running a stop sign in a parking lot. However, in my experience, cops can pull you over for absolutely no reason and running a parking lot stop sign can be considered reckless driving.

I usually stop unless I'm in a hurry. There is really only one stop sign that I regularly encounter and it is sort of in a parking lot. It is in my neighborhood and even though a cop usually sits right there, I am very confident I'll never get pulled over for running it because that cop has a lot worse things to worry about than a car running the stop sign.

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@benyust2: Not talking about "signs" as in on a post. I'm talking about what is painted on the pavement in some places.

I figure if they really want you to stop they'll invest in a post and sign.

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@benyust2: "When I took drivers ed, the cop riding with me told me you can't get pulled over for running a stop sign in a parking lot."

I've never understood that. Where I live if you park on a shopping center parking lot, where it says no parking, you will get ticketed. In those same parking lots there are tractor trailers parked, sometimes all day and night, in areas where you would drive, not park. They are never given tickets. The explanation we were given by the police is that they cannot ticket the tractor trailers that do this because they are on private property. HUH??? You can ticket a car that is parked in a no parking area, on the same private property as the tractor trailers that you say you cannot ticket? I again say HUH???

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@mtm2: @benyust2: I am not sure about your states but in Washington state, the police have not traffic jurisdiction in a parking lot as it is PRIVATE property. I have had several acquaintances get hit or hit someone in a parking lot and the Police can referee but they can't even give a ticket.

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@theoneill555: Please see my post directly above yours pertaining to the police saying a parking lot is private property.

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@jnissel: It's private property, so improperly parking is considered trespassing (you don't have permission). As for moving violations, it's private property and normal public street traffic laws don't really apply.

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@theoneill555: Interesting. I was actually pulled over in that same parking lot years later. The cop told me he could give me a ticket for reckless driving (I drove somewhat fast through unoccupied parking spots to get around someone who stopped suddenly). He ended up just giving me a warning (I had no tickets at that time) but I'm wondering if he even had the authority to pull me over at all?

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I didn't witness this first hand, but a friend has told me that he was riding with his wife and she ran a stop sign in a parking lot.

A police officer pulled her over and started to give her a hard time about it. She actually said something along the lines of, "Look, I know you can't give me a ticket for running a stop sign in a parking lot. So can I go now?"

The officer acquiesced and let her leave.

(FWIW, this scenario seems probable based on how assertive I know the wife to be)

This was in NC. Local laws may vary.

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I was very nearly run over at a crosswalk with the walk signal by someone preforming a rolling stop/right turn on red. I always come to a complete stop, even at yields. Check out this video by the Traffic Safety Coalition. Warning! It's pretty gut wrenching.

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Stop. Of course. It's the law.

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@petrosrex: OMG! I just watched that video. This is a driver's worst nightmare - causing a horrific accident or hitting a kid like in that last clip. I always stop and look all ways before I go again. Sometimes I am in a hurry and I hate to have to stop - and in my own neighborhood I sometimes feel silly stopping when there is obviously no other traffic. But I do always stop.

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I always come to a full stop, which seems to irritate the drivers behind me for some reason. Maybe that's why I do it? Anyway, it's habit now and the safe way to go as far as I am concerned.

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I try to do a complete stop, but sometimes there's those moments where I do that "sort of" stop. My mother was pulled over for performing the rolling stop and received a warning, which is enough to stop me from doing so around my house.

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My pride tells me I always come to a complete stop, but my brain tells me it's only about 90% of the time. It depends on the area.

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I used to think rolling stops were usually harmless so long nobody else was around, although for the past couple of years I've been coming to a complete stop...no sense in getting a ticket to save 5-10 seconds.

That video you showed was scary...poor kids. :(

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I stop completely all the time. What's funny is I don't even have my license yet, just a permit and a drive to GET that damn license.

....I failed the road test 4 times...ugh, silly mistakes cost me the title.

I plan to try again very soon. 5th time is the charm!

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@omnichad: That's my point. If improperly parking is trespassing and it gets you a ticket on your car why don't they give put a ticket on the tractor trailers that improperly park there?

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I always stop. Its far to easy to cause a very serious accident by not stopping properly.

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I generally stop (completely) for STOP signs.

However, most of the STOP signs in NYC are placed so far away from the intersection that it is impossible to see whether there is oncomming traffic if you stop with the front of your car at or before the stop line. In most cases it is necessary to be 5-15 feet past the stop line to see if it is safe to proceed. (I'm not kidding about the 15 feet; most of the time it is the width of the crosswalk, which is about six or seven feet.)

So, when there are no pedestrians present, I tend to stop only once, technically past the stop line. Note also that Right on Red is generally not permitted in NY City (due to the large number of pedestrians).

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I always stop completely. Mainly because I don't trust other drivers.

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@ahacksaw: Forgetting about tickets or points that by far is one of the best reasons.

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I rarely stop completely (ie feel the lurch), but come to a near complete stop unless its a blind corner, I stop completely for those. In residential area's I will come to a complete stop, but rarely drive in residential areas with controlled intersections.

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I worked with an ex-cop who taught me that it's a complete stop IF your car gives a little jump-back or "lurch" as @rockytrh said. I like to think that I always stop completely, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that there are times (isolated areas, late at night, not a soul in sight) when I don't just do the rolling stop thing. Having said all of this, I got a ticket for failing to come to a complete stop several years ago. I fought it and won because I knew the "lurch" rule and swore that I had done just that several feet before the stop sign so I could look through a break in the hedge along the road for oncoming cars. Seeing none, I had rolled forward and slowly through the intersection. Evidently, the judge was aware of that neighborhood intersection and the fact that the hedge blocked the view of drivers who drove all the way to the stop sign before stopping. (My ex-cop buddy calls such areas "honey holes" because a cop can always catch someone to ticket there.)

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@petrosrex: Oh, my! At about 56 seconds and, I think at 1:40 I literally shrieked (scaring my employees). I DO stop at red lights! Seriously!

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If someone was whacking me upside the head with a stick I would want them to stop, not slow down and keep going. I stop completely at stop signs and red lights. Running reds seems to be the new game in town.

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@xdavex: But if someone were handing you 100 dollar bills you would accept them slowing down but you would not want them to stop. :o)

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I completely stop - and at the stop line too! I was a tad bit over it last year to enable a better site line and got front-swiped by a car out of its lane. I got the ticket because I was over the line. Also $20K damage to my new car which to my horror was NOT totalled. I am so uber cautious now, and people get enraged when I do come to a full stop. (Florida - and drivers who are just plain nuts).

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In the state of Washington, there is a statute that requires a time period for the stop. I believe it is a full 2 seconds. Anything less can get you a ticket. I actually count 3 seconds before proceeding (1 chimpanzee, 2 chimpanzee ...) just to avoid a ticket. If perchance I get stopped, I will claim this is my routine to the judge and hopefully have the ticket dismissed. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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I don't stop at stop signs.

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@jnissel: Well maybe, but the chances are better of getting smacked upside the head than Benjamens in the hand.

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@iggz: Allow me to guess. Is it because you don't drive a motor vehicle?

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@jnissel: Of course I drive a motor vehicle, but I have a road bike too.

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@iggz: Is it because there are no stop signs where you live/drive? I'm asking that because I would think that while driving a motor vehicle you would run into a stop sign or two. Unless you only drive the motor vehicle on private property and there are no stop signs on it.

Another possibility is in the areas you drive you know ways to go that avoids stop signs.

There is also the possibility that while you own a motor vehicle you have someone drive you places. That way you don't personally stop the car, the person driving does.

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@jnissel: The last option sounds cool, I'll take that one.

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At a stop sign, I always come to a complete stop because I don't trust any of the other drivers. At a stop light, I tend to do a rolling stop when turning right. I even got a $500 camera ticket for doing it, but I still find myself impatiantly doing it when there's no one around.

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depends if there is a cop around or not :)

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@iggz: Alright, you got me with your last answer. I'd like to know the real reason you don't stop at stop signs. I really doubt you thumb your nose at the law so what is the answer?