BUG: Yesterday's Top Voter, Gone Again.
Good Morning User,
It seems as if Yesterday's Top Voter has disappeared again.
Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to infiltrate the hostile grid, find the heroic security program that will assist you in the defeat of the Master Control, and recover the data that will re-establish Yesterday's Top Voter to the leaderboard.
This tape will self-destruct in 100 µs. Good luck, User.
(Yes I just mashed-up Tron and Mission Impossible. I was lacking coffee and was bored.)
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xarous
asked 9 months ago
Micro seconds? I think your self destruct is malfunctioning. I have a spare count-down IC, if you need one.
I thought microseconds would be fitting for the mashup.
It looks like they neglected to roll-over the stats from yesterday - I haven't voted on anything today and I am still #1 voter.
Launching and running a Woot-Off must require more effort than they make it appear.
I think someone forgot to feed the hamsters that power the servers again.
Glad you pointed out the bug. I meant to post something, but got busy. Maybe we should page someone?
@shawnmiller: Good morning! I know it's not quite 9AM out there in Seattle, but could you look into this when you get a chance?
Also, while you're looking at the system, I notice that my questioner rating has dropped to an abysmal 46.61%. I could easily see how there might be 53 people who are better questioners than I. But over 53%?!? Have 53% of users even asked a single question? Are my questions really that bad?... Or is it no longer a percentile?
@heymo: Based on my observations, the questioner rating is weighted based on time - the older your questions the less impact they have, even for awesome questions (lots of upvotes and answers). I think this was a recent-ish change (i.e. not yesterday, probably a couple months back).
Leaderboard is up to date now.
@durkzilla: (and @heymo) You are correct on your statement about there being a time window effect governing questions. I have gone out of my way not to ask questions (piggy backing on other questions with comments, whenever possible), and my current rating is around 46% or less. Fine with me. I'd just as soon see recent contributions rewarded. I asked a lot of questions back when the site was much newer, although many of those questions were actually just helpful posts (@sgoman5674 and others did the same).
Things change. Sometimes the change is good, sometimes it's bad, and most times it's just different. It is what it is.
@durkzilla, @shrdlu: Right. The time window phenomenon is a hallmark of the Reputation 2.0 system. And I agree that things should be weighted toward more recent participation, because otherwise you'll end up with the same ossification that occurred under the original system. New blood is needed to keep this thing going, and it is right that the new people who have stepped up are rewarded.
However, I also think that the new system needs some corrective. It is now possible to make the leaderboard as a complete newb. Nothing against newbies; every newbie has the potential to be a great community member; @hobbit understood that best of everyone. But shouldn't you have been around long enough to know the rules in order to make the leaderboard?
@durkzilla, @shrdlu: But I digress, because that is not at all what my question pertained to. It was a simple question about the percentage itself.
In the past, we've been told that these are percentiles. As you both well know, percentile score is a type of rank, telling what percentage of cases rank below that particular case. So if my percentile is 46.61, it means that 53.39% of users rank ABOVE me on this measure. Now, can someone please explain how that is possible?
@heymo: Sure, I can explain. The actual participation is vanishingly small in comparison to the people who might, and yet do not, participate. When you are up against a system that treats all questions equally, your propensity for asking useful and thoughtful questions actually counts against you, not for you. Note that my current position on Reputation is 66, with a mere 99.32%, and yet some weeks ago, the window was much larger, and that percentage would have placed me somewhere in the 125-150 range (or so). I suspect that this extraordinary shortening has also shown up in the other Leaderboard entries, and that you are just now paying attention to it.
Truthfully, I check the Leaderboard page a few times a day for the laziest of reasons. I have noticed lately that I am most likely to buy Moofi deals (if I buy from Woot), and it's quicker to click on the link there than to bother with typing anything in (or bookmarking it).
I could say more, but I'm in the middle of canning.
@heymo: 46.61%? Abyssal?
Top Questioners. chris12345. 4.91%.
It was much better after I asked http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/3a7f4009-1c4e-4fa3-8fa6-1a1c68d8e521/what-is-deals-woot-awesomeness-and-how-is-it-measured, but then, maybe a few days later, BAM. It's like that question was suddenly not figured into the Top Questioner calculations.
@chris12345: When whatever question you asked falls off the Popular page, it causes a rapid loss of percentage. This is true (but not as strongly) for Deals posted. I've seen it careen straight up, and then fall dramatically, depending on its visibility on the Popular page. Questions that do not become popular do not cause the wild swings, and may actually contribute more in the long term to a higher percentage.
@shrdlu: Man, that is the dumbest thing I have heard since Rick Perry threatened Texas justice against (Bush appointee) Ben Bernanke.
And yet, it is perfectly consistent with what I've observed. You get penalized for asking good questions... I love it!
@joneholland Don't tell anyone, but it's broken again.
@xarous: I won't tell anyone.
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