Anyone notice an abundance of haters, lately?
General rant on the increase in "haterish" comments recently...
1. If you hate deals.woot so much, why are you wasting your/our time with nasty comments?
2. I buy more deals that others post such as hobbit, mfladd and wootvan, prettywootprincess, anotherhiggins, sgoman, and others etc... and I am very thankful they continue to post great stuff... Keep it coming guys/gals.
3. If you don't have something nice to say in your comment, don't vote for the deal!
My .02.
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mbrugnoni
asked 2 years ago
I had actually commented privately to someone else about this. Plus my post below about regional ads kind of dealt with a similar issue. I was wondering if it was cranky day. Could be folks are tired of being cooped up, I know for me it has been a long winter I can't wait for it to warm up so I can get outside and into the sunshine.
There might have been a lot of Woot-off spillover. Also, the site is growing which attracts more of both good and bad. It's not like Woot or Shirt.Woot with only one item per day to snipe at--lot of targets here.
I'll admit I made a sort of snarky reply in this thread,
http://deals.woot.com/questions/details/a7dc3714-c445-4162-abd5-2a8dc01d9cca/status-of-delivery#2
but I think it's time for people to take responsibility and investigate before asking for help.
@wootvan: go look at a few deals, well more than a few. Folks have gotten a bit snarly. My personal favorite snotty remark is when folks go in and comment with "I found it cheaper at [name another store here]" instead of just posting the better deal drives me nuts. YOu know? This is a deals site, if you have a better deal, post it don't be rude about in another deal.
I do think it's worse than it has been. I see so many people trying to score points in some sophomoric kind of take down, where if they just say enough rude and tasteless things, somehow they'll gain points. Except this isn't a bar, and most of us aren't laughing. It doesn't take many to make it seem like it's everywhere, either. We've had a few where @hobbit has even tattled because what had been said was just over the line.
I think that some of this may be woot off related, and a bit more may be the continual dumping of sellout folk here, rather than just making deals a brief transition. No (before someone misreads me), I do NOT mean that people from sellout are a group of low lifes who have spoiled our little paradise, but rather that those who were already a bit borderline are taking it out on things here, where they might have dumped that same visceral spew over on the forums in sellout.
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Other than continuing to calmly suggest that their behavior isn't helpful, I'm not sure what to do. We can tattle, but that just gets the comment removed (or edited, which I actually prefer). We can go on the attack (sometimes this is the most tempting), but I recommend against it.
Most of the "haters" seem to be of the hit and run variety as well. A snarky comment here and there, and then their gone, and that's that.
Well I just found this site this week and I love it. Of course everything isn't for met but I have bought a couple of good items this week. THANKS GUYS!!! Keep up the good work. :)
I don't care for the deal bashers, but comments are just that. If someone posts a deal, and I take the time to look it up, price it, add the shipping, and see where you can get it cheaper through this same site, I think a negative comment is justified. This isn't senslessadwhores.woot, it is called deals.woot. Deals being the key word.
my .02 and worth everthing you paid for it.
See... I completely disagree here. If you see a 'deal' posted that's not a good deal, I think you should say so. If it's cheaper somewhere else, that's supporting data for why it's not a good deal. Just posting a new deal for the same item but cheaper doesn't always get seen, and I find it nice if I click on a deal to see comments about the overall validity of the deal in question -- both good AND bad.
I don't think it's 'hating' to say, "This isn't a good deal. I saw it cheaper at X." I think that's JUST what the comments section is for.
@eneref: Unlike some of the others, I don't personally object to posting a "this isn't much of a deal, here's where I saw it for better", but I do think you should still post your find as a deal, too. After all, if what you found is better, shouldn't you share it?
What I find unpleasant are the people who show up and say things that aren't exactly true (such as that the link doesn't work), or why does anyone need this thing? I've seen commentary on plus size dresses that was just pointless and rude, and commentary on deals that they don't personally want that are complaints that such things shouldn't be posted.
I will also say that just because you can find something cheaper than amazon or another well known and reasonably trusted site, doesn't make it a better deal. I watched meritline (as an example) for nearly three months here before I finally bought something from them. There are other sites I will never buy from. Not every deal is equal.
@eneref: I think phrasing has a lot to do with it. you are right if there is a better deal at another retailer fine, but again like shrdlu said post it, don't just point out the person's deal isn't a deal. Although it is also relative i recall early on when some pen or something was posted and it was 100.00 or so the deal was actually posted by the owner of the website, I did ask How is this a deal because I couldn't ever imagine paying more than 30.00 for the item. It was also because I wanted information on this new revolutionary product.
Oh and same with some item that sanitized pens and pencils.
@shrdlu: and I think alike a lot scary. I also find it unpleasant when someone goes into a deal that might only be interesting to a few in a specific region and tells the deal poster to not post that type of deal again, even though there were quite a few of us who loved it. The deal poster was a new member too. If I had been the deal poster and been told that I wouldn't come back.
@ecriscit and @eneref: I don't mind criticism on a deal I've posted as long as the comments POLITELY let me & others know "Oh BTW, I've found an even better deal on this here:..." Posting the other better deal on their own is a great idea as well. I don't mind a little snark either if it's funny and well intended.
It all comes down to manners. Some people have them, and some folks apparently think that hiding behind a callsign gives them permission to behave like an utter ass. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we'll either have to put up with them, or take our marbles and go home. I don't think the Staff likes to be heavy handed here and maybe that's a good thing.
@lavikinga: You are correct on manners. I think that those of us who are thick-skinned have an easier time of it, but rudeness actually bothers me more when it's directed against others, anyway. It actually bothers me more to see rude behavior on the Deals side, because that is often the first (and only) thing a new visitor sees. It is also (as @hobbit said) sad to see it directed against people who are just testing the waters.
I don't know whether woot staff is light-handed, or just plain overwhelmed. No one can be everywhere, read every comment, and dispense justice with an even hand. Although it's not as crazy as it was during Black Friday (the site gets about 1/4 of the visitors as it did during that first week out of beta), it would still be tough for a few people to try and keep up with the activity of tens of thousands. It's why they depend on us to help.
If a deal is neat or cool looking, I'll post a polite comment like "Neato!" or "Cool beans!", if not then I will ignore it and not comment on it. What I don't appreciate is people raining on others parade's. This site is fun (or at least I find it to be) and people being negative is a bummer.
I have seen people be rude or obnoxious to others but I assume that there is a back story about it and I don't get involved. But random people bashing is not fun and it detracts from the site, which can be bad for first time users.
I am not sure if there is a way to properly police this, but I know that woot staff has done some editing and deleting of posts that were deemed inappropriate. There are a few users out there who have done tattling regarding tasteless comments (not naming names), and a @shrdlu has commented earlier, it doesn't solve the issue, because they go away then come back later with the same attitude.
Maybe a deal should be posted for a free "Miss Manners class" ...con't
....con't should be posted and then whenever someone says something tasteless, snarly, rude, etc. a link should be posted for that user.
I could go on, but I have things to do.
Have a good one!
@sgoman5674: Long live Judith Martin. (her Conan appearance back in the day was classic)
@mbrugnoni: I sat here for a handful of minutes trying to remember which Conan movie she might have appeared in, and then it dawned on me...jeesh.
I don't suppose there could be a time out corner for accounts belonging to those really obnoxious people, could there?
@sgoman5674: I assume you meant this http://deals.woot.com/questions/users/sgoman5674/commented only on the deals side. Of course, there could be retaliation.
@lavikinga: I vote for a time out corner!
@bsalusa: Yessir.
But Does It Work With A Mac?
@supercheapwebhosting: only if the mac is in lots and lots of small little pieces. Experience with this.
I liked a comment I read the other day. Someone had posted complaining that some site's sign-up asked "where did you hear about us" and didn't have an "other" space for deals.woot. Someone else responded that they consider the folks on here to be friends, so they marked the "heard about it from a friend" box. That's the kind of online communities I want to be a part of.
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