The Least Wanted List: Post Known Spammers Here.
I think it might be helpful to have a list of known spammers. Like a Police station wall of the Most wanted. Except these are the Least wanted.
Post the user and evidence you might have that they have been spamming or putting up fraudulent deals. That way others know to be wary. On another note, why hasn't Spam been added to the drop-down Tattle menu?
My first addition would be @monkeytoesshoes They posted 8-10 "deals" which were just links to items in their store, pushing everyone else off the front page. I tattled though and it got dealt with quickly.
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geode
asked 2 years ago
Not sure if this is a good idea. While I see the merits of informing the public and letting the spammers know "We are on to you, BEWARE!" Woot! has a fairly adept system of recognizing the spammers and separately emailing them asking to only post a limited amount of deals in given period of time.
The question is would it help woot! add to their list of previous spammers?
@sgoman5674: Fair enough.
Woot staff- would a centralized list of fraudulent/spamming posters be useful or should we just stick with the ad hoc tattling when we see it?
Most of the spammers cannot get their deals voted up, receive few if any comments and the comments they do get tend to be negative. All of these a good indicators for the experienced on the site, but I do worry sometimes about the new visitors who don't spend enough time here to "get it" and might have a problem.
On the other hand, let the buyer beware....
@sand4me: true, but with the new top voter of the day thingy some folks are just randomly voting for stuff just to get to the top of the voting list, I think. This person who was reported also started getting a reputation because someone was voting for its deals.
I've been thinking about this one all afternoon. The real problem is that, like pornography, it's ill defined. We each believe we know it when we see it, but there's any number of things that I'll vote up (on a good day, when I'm less annoyed by all that's going on here, lately). On the other hand, I get tired of seeing the same posters just doing a core dump from their site (I'll bet I'm the only one in this group that can actually read core dumps, btw).
The things is, there are so many one time visitors, and they see something like that bkindustries crap, and buy stuff, and then he's encouraged to post more. He doesn't HAVE to make it to popular to make it worth his while to post. It's free, after all.
(me wanders off, muttering darkly about tragedy of the commons, and poor Cassandra)
@shrdlu: The only "core dump" that I am aware of is when a starship from Star Trek jettisons it's warp core.
@sgoman5674: On the vague chance that someone really doesn't understand:
What we COULD do is keep the thread going for awhile.
Post who we think are spammers and see how many others agree with us by their votes.
I hate spammers so I'm down for anything that might help get rid of them.
@jasmine: That's what I was thinking too. I think there is some reluctance from some members, and I don't want this to turn into a blame game, but a good reference for new (and even experienced) members to check, and for woot staff to be aware of, although i'm sure they know most of these already.
@geode: I think the idea is good, but we have to remember that some of those deal posters also read over here. We don't want to start a flame war that staff has to come in and intervene on. I also think we should includ irresponsible deal posters as well as spammers, because deal posters who post stuff that then turns out to be bad - the links are bad, the deal was erroneous, other issues - and they post a lot of these deals time and time again this should be known as well so that folks stop voting up those deals, because the minute they make it to popular that deal just becomes a huge nightmare for everyone, most especially staff.
I think I'll throw one out there, then.
How about this one?
Joined 3 days ago, has 0 rep, 2 posts for the same site which also happens to be his screen name.
I smell spam! ;)
@jasmine: Back down, cookie. Woot staff ENCOURAGES the sitename == username, so that we will know that it's the owner of the site. I don't think much of the deal, but the person is doing the right thing.
Two posts in two days isn't much. It really isn't. If they've only been around for three days, and haven't yet made a post that was voted up, they're going to have 0/100 reputation for a while.
Hmmm. I had no idea people could post their own site.
And I tattled on someone before who did that.
Jeez...I wonder if I should tattle on myself for tattling-out-of-turn. :)
@jasmine: Don't bother tattling on yourself. They'll have ignored you on the other one. Don't feel too bad, either. There's so much garbage that's posted, and everyone who hits the fresh tab, and spends some time tattling on the obvious crap, and voting up things that are good, does everyone else a favor.
I wish more people did it.
@hobbit: Yeah, I don't mean to tattle on silly people self promoting in a small way. But I agree that Core Dumps as @shrdlu put it, and fraudulent, misleading, or scamming posts should be exposed, so that others will not be victimized. I know most of us are probably savvy enough to avoid them, but even a shrewd fish can get netted sometimes. And shrdlu's right that sitename=username isn't bad at all, just when they put up 10 deals in a matter of minutes to flood the boards.
@shrdlu: Frankly it takes me a matter of maybe 30 seconds to post an ad, so it doesn't matter if it results in any sales, it promotes the site and gets the word out. And frankly, my industry constitutes an 80 million dollar a year business in the US alone let alone elsewhere so my "Crap" is only crap in your opinion. There are millions who think otherwise.
Just because you are not interested in our products does not mean that others aren't. We post on over 30 deals pages (getting voted to front pages consistently), over a hundred forums, and around 50 blog sites, the point to all this madness is getting the company name out there, if it results in sales now (as it has) then great. But it will result in sales in the future and that's the goal.
MOST Spammers spam right when they sign up, they stop immediately after someone lets them know the site standards. The only issues is the few sites that know the standards and choose to ignore it over and over.
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