questionsdoes someone other than woot print shirt.woot…

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My last random shirt was printed on an AA tag, not a woot... I think Woot sometimes runs out of shirts with their tags and has to get some other shirts fast to print on.

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One or two of my last batch of AA randoms had generic AA labels, not Woot-branded labels. I'm guessing they ordered a smaller-than-usual batch of a few sizes/colors to fill their commitment to continuing to print certain existing shirts on AA stock, and didn't bother with the custom label to save time and/or money on the order. No big deal.

By the way, I own Family Breakfast, I was actually wearing it yesterday! One of my very favorite Woot shirts.

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This raises an interesting question I haven't been able to find an answer to anywhere: Does Woot own the designs they print? For instance, let's say I'm a good artist (huge stretch) and enter a shirt into the Derby. It gets first place and sells for weeks. After a couple months, it's Reckoned, never to be seen until they sell a batch of randoms. Could I, as the hypothetical artist, have this design printed on another website? Sorry if this kinda veers the thread off where it should go.

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I don't know the answer to your question, but wanted to say....

I LOVE the Unclaimed Baggage Store!!!

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We've alerted shirt staff to this thread to look into this matter!

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@captainsuperdawg: In exchange for the commission, Woot owns the all the printing rights to the said design.

In spite of the current issues, Woot is still are among the best paying crowd-sourced sites in that there is no compensation cap. The #1 design, The Binge, has cleared over $90k to the artist.

As for the tag ... when they run out of the custom tagged blanks, they'll use the manufacturer's own tagged ones. Not the first time it's happened, nor the last. Just stop sending Narf the wrong shirts, and all will be well. ^_^

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@inkycatz: Don't worry - I'm sure it was the genuine article. Knockoff places wouldn't use an AA 2001 - it cuts into their profit margins. Imports like the Tultex 0202 and Anvil 980 blanks cost about half as much.

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@narfcake: so thats very interesting so they own the design forever huh ? Not aruging that you cant make money from it but what if you only stay on the chart for a couple of weeks ? Then a year or two later your still stuck with woot owning it ?

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@narfcake: $90k?! Holy cannoli, that is beyond awesome! Sure makes me wish I had some artistic/design talent.

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@djbowman: They own the printing rights. The artist still owns the rights to the design, but can't legally resell it or have it printed elsewhere.

@pitamuffin: That's just an estimate, but it's just ONE design too. And it was a Monday submission. And it was his first derby!

FWIW, Woot's #1 artist has raked in way more than that total. How much, I haven't calculated, but it'll be funding Med school for him this year, if that's any perspective.

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@captainsuperdawg @djbowman: @narfcake's response is not quite completely accurate. Traditionally, woot has offered two different contracts to the artists. Any shirt submitted to a Derby carries the kind of contract that Narfcake describes: lifetime rights to woot, $1000 (currently) pay for first day sales and $2/item after the first day. Shirts submitted as possibilities for selection as Daily (M-Th) shirts can be submitted under that contract ("A") or under a different contract ("B") that gives woot the rights for only one year and lower first day pay to the artist ($500), but the same $2/item payment after the first day. My understanding is that most artists choose the "A" contract as @narfcake described.

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Thanks for the enlightening feedback guys. I don't suppose it would matter much since I really wanted the shirt, but I suppose the fact that it did orginally come from woot does make it have more personal value (and a good story about finding it in an Unclaimed Baggage Store)

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@pitamuffin: @narfcake leaves out my favorite part of The Binge's origin story: @tjost's first version of "The Binge" was rejected from the "Blues" Derby for copyright reasons. The version that was submitted on a Monday and has gone on to become woot's top-selling shirt of all time was the second version that exists only because the first was rejected.

The difference in quality between the first and second versions amazes me: the story is so much deeper and richer in the second version, and the humor is incomparable. Whenever I get frustrated by the imperfections of the first draft of a paper or annoyed by the revisions suggested by editors, I try to use my poster of The Binge as a visual reminder of the difference that revision can make to a final product. That, or as inspiration for a tasty coping strategy. :)