questionswhich 2 free ps3 or psp games are you going to…

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**A selection of “On Us” rental movie titles will be available to PlayStation Network customers over one weekend, where Video Service is available. Those titles will be announced soon.

**30 days free PlayStation Plus membership for non PlayStation Plus subscribers.

**Existing PlayStation Plus subscribers will receive an additional 60 days of free subscription.

**Existing Music Unlimited Premium Trial subscription members will receive an additional 30 days of free premium subscription.

**Additional 30 days + time lost for existing members of Music Unlimited Premium/Basic subscription free of charge for existing Premium/Basic members.

**To welcome users Home, PlayStation Home will be offering 100 free virtual items. Additional free content will be released soon, including the next addition to the Home Mansion personal space, and Ooblag’s Alien Casino, an exclusive game.

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Hopefully this will make you forget that someone out there has ALL your personal information including:

Your name
Your address (city, state, and zip)
Country
E-mail address
Birthday
PSN password and login name

And possibly a credit card number if kept on file!

Have a good day!

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Has there been a date set for when these are going to be available for download? Or it is still "Whenever PSN goes back up."

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To be fair, you can pretty much get all that "personal info" (except for PSN login/pass & CC info) by Googling anyone.

As soon as I heard about the possible compromise of credit card numbers, I called the bank for the card I used with my PSN account, had them cancel it and issue me a new one. And I changed my PSN password as soon as I could. (Took a few tries with people jamming the servers to get back online ASAP.)

But back to the original question: inFAMOUS for sure, since I've been on the fence about getting that one anyway, and probably Dead Nation. I was surprised at first that LittleBigPlanet's on the list, since it's such a major title. But I figure that's the point: probably 90%* of people with a PS3 have it already, so they won't have to give away too many copies.

*Statistics from The Department of Making Stuff Up, Video Game Division

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@wingnutzero: Uhhh I'm going to have to call BS on that one and call you stupid. You're stupid. You won't find anyone's email address or birthday by Googling their name. I just Googled my entire family and a few friends, and came up with NOTHING. I didn't find ANY information on them. I find it amusing you don't think this is a very big deal.

In order to Google someone you WOULD HAVE TO KNOW their name in the first place. Having just their name would NOT give you their address unless it's very unique, like 1 in 300 million. I'm surprised you can't understand this. This person now has the personal information of over 100 million people conveniently packaged for whatever they want to do with it. You're just a good little American, please keep walking, eyes straightforward, nothing to see here, good boy, good boy.

BTW, I hear Dead Nation sucks.

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I'm personally a tad disappointed in the selection and have already posted elsewhere in regards to that...only to get flamed by frothing at the mouth Sony Fanboys who feel they must defend Sony at the mere mention of "Sony" nowadays. ...who, I might add, sure shut up when the new password issue popped up, not a peep.

I have all of those games except for Dead Nation which I wasn't planning on buying anyways. Not very good compensation to me personally. As a person who has had my personal details taken, been affected financially by having to cancel my cards and very thoroughly inconvenienced, I get stuck with my choice of "suck it" and Dead Nation when people that haven't bought anything from the PS Store get 4 games.

Doesn't feel very fair to me. I'd rather get a credit to my PS Store wallet personally.

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@sykotek: stick it to sony. get an xbox 360.

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@iggz: Many people have a facebook account, a many of those people post an email address, phone number, sometimes even their address on their facebook info. So all you would have to do is search facebook and find one with their info. You could probably google and whitepages the rest.

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@kamikazeken: I have all the current systems already. I will likely not continue buying more Sony products in the future as I am quite dissatisfied with the handling of this fiasco overall. Its a good thing I haven't hurried to update my PS3 either because I've heard many original PS3 owners are having their units overheating because of issues with the recent security update.

@segafanalways: I don't use Facebook and I stay off grid mostly. Its why I'm pissed with everything that has happened.

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I have both PS3 and a PSP. I have read that if you have both you get both "welcome back" packages. If that happens to be the case then here are my choices:

PS3
inFAMOUS
LittleBigPlanet

PSP
Killzone Liberation
Pursuit Force

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@sykotek: I have heard this also but I have an old fat 80gb PS3 and I havent had any. The biggest report has been from people play L.A. Noire so maybe thats why mine hasn't over heated.

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One thing people need to realize is that yes the Playstation network was hacked, and they didn't handle it very well but this problem didn't cause your PS3 or PSP to brick or not play games until the service came back up. The biggest loss was just that you couldn't play multiplayer, Video service, and use of the store. While this is inconvinent it is not a huge deal. And they are offering free idenity theft protection for anyone affected.

I was suprised to hear that they would be offering a free game at all, let alone 2. I think everyone should consider themselves lucky that they are having the welcome back package. The have already lost millions over this and after all is said and done it could be billions.

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Nice to see they are hooking you guys up. Be it with a limited selection, but still a nice package.

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@iggz: Your faith in the internet is disturbing.

If you own a home, your address is public record and readily available online from a county assessor's office.
If you have a phone, white pages does the trick unless you pay to keep your number unlisted (which, believe it or not, most people don't).
As for birthdays and such, like segafanalways said, you'd be amazed at the info people put in their facebook/twitter/linkedin/social-media-of-the-moment page.

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@segafanalways: You're wrong! And if you want to prove yourself correct, then by next week I want the following information on 100 million people.

Your name
Your address (city, state, and zip)
Country
E-mail address
Birthday
PSN password and login name

Good luck.

BTW, I don't have a single person on my friend's list that has an email, phone number or physical address listed.

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@segafanalways: Also, they deserve to lose billions. They didn't protect my information. THEY DIDN'T ENCRYPT ANYTHING. They expect me to trust them in the future? Yeah right. And the biggest loss to me is that my personal information was stolen, not that I couldn't play multiplayer for a couple weeks. You don't happen to own stock in Sony, do you? Or are you really that forgiving of a corporation who doesn't give 2 poodles about you. Pathetic.

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@wingnutzero: lol you really just don't understand do you? I offer the same challenge to you. Give me the following information on 100 million people by next week:

Your name
Your address (city, state, and zip)
Country
E-mail address
Birthday
PSN password and login name

@wingnutzero: lol you really just don't understand do you? I offer the same challenge to you. Give me the following information on 100 million people by next week:

Your name
Your address (city, state, and zip)
Country
E-mail address
Birthday
PSN password and login name

BTW- I don't own a home, so my address isn't listed. I do have a phone but I'm not listed on whitepages and I didn't pay anything. I don't have ANY information on Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn/Etc

But guess what? Someone now has ALL that information. And segafanalways seems to be in the same boat. You're just naive.

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@iggz: I don't have stock invested and I do understand peoples concern about there lack of encryption and having the information hacked. The worse that will come out of it though is that you have a few more spam emails sent to you, more solicitors that call you, and maybe even a few more things of junk in the snail mail (unless you were one of the few that also had the CC info hacked, which wasn't very many). Other then your birthday and PSN login info, businesses and many other fake businesses already have the info they could get from Playstation. How do you think a person has spam email sent to them, Credit card offers in the mail, or solicitors calling and offering extended insurance on a specific vehicle you own. So unless you don't get any of those, then don't worry about it. If you don't want to own a playstation, then buy an Xbox, Wii, gaming PC, or give up gaming altogether. I'm sure their are plenty of people that will by your used system.

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Her is just 2 random people I brought up on facebook. Took me 5 Minuites. I edited their names and didn't post any of the other info that I found on them. I just posted some of the few things I got off of Facebook only.

Thomas Fr* Lives in Seattle, Washington Knows English, American Sign Language, Japanese, From Machesney Park, Illinois, Born on August 6, 1986. Is in a 2nd class gunnersmate in the Navy working on missiles and is a crew serve weapons instructor, is deployed in the middle east currently.

Bill Bo*: Dog Handler at United States Air Force, Went to Edward Little High School, Lives in Mechanic Falls, Maine, Married to Candace Bodwell From Auburn, Maine Born on March 1, 1980, Anniversary September 1, 2007, is a republican,

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@segafanalways: But you're making it sound like everyone has those issues. I for one don't because I'm not an idiot. I receive ZERO junk mail. I have ZERO phone solicitors. Do you understand? Not everyone is technology illiterate. Understand? I'm pissed about it. And quit being a Nazi and telling me what to do. I never said I didn't want to own a Playstation. Your logic is flawed. I said I wanted my information protected like it is supposed to be. I'm sick of companies slacking in the most important areas. I have a feeling someone could rape you and then say that they are very sorry and you'd be like "Oooh it's okay, it happens to a lot of people."

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@segafanalways: Good job, only 99,999,998 more to go. Keep up the good work, Tiger. You'll be there in no time. BTW, you're missing their email addresses and physical addresses.

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@iggz: I kept those out to "protect" their information. Just like I didn't post their full names.

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I'll probably end up getting Dead Nation and F-Zero. I already have LBP and Infamous and I can't recommend them highly enough if you never played them.

Sony screwed up, but nothing has happened as of yet, and they have always been good to me in the past, so they get a pass on this one.

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@iggz: If you're so pissed about it, speak with your wallet. Don't buy them anymore.
Good job disguising your Sony hate with a question too.

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Seems like iggz and myself are the only two people here that understand the severity of the situation.

The consequences of identity theft are very serious and can not only ruin your credit, but it is likely that the moment Sony stops paying for identity theft protection, which is 1 year from now, that will be when criminals will begin to abuse your information for nefarious purposes.

@segafanalways: Thanks for keeping out their personal details, that's more than what Sony has done.

@joscott87: F-Zero, at this time, is not being offered, but you never know, Nintendo might be okay with allowing Sony to give it away for free (kidding).

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Dead Nation and inFamous I guess. Those are the only two I don't already own.

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So if I were to just try and download these titles, would they be free? Sony says they're offering all this but they're not really telling us how to claim it. The PlaystationPlus free trial will be pretty nice.

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Going to have to buy a psp, for lbp and mod nation for my son..lol I hate that the hack happened, but we all know the Internet is just the place for that to happen. I pray Sony has done better this time around.

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Can anyone give me a suggestion on wich one of these is less camera choppy ? Ie have a friend that has a PS3 for certain games but lots make him motion sick.

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@sykotek

lol, whoops....guess I can hold out hope

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@segafanalways: Can I assume Bill's last name is Bodwell?

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@nilator: Another stupid comment, but not surprising. I already own the PS3 why the hell would I stop buying games for it? Good job disguising your Sony love with a stupid answer.

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@djbowman: Dead Nation isn't very 'choppy.' It stays at a birdseye view. Just search for each game title in YouTube to get a preview. Wipeout might be good for him too. I hear inFAMOUS is probably the best of the 5 though.

@thedogma: I think once the Playstation Store is back up you can get them, read the article at the top again

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"We are acting like we have been robbed because we HAVE been robbed. Our personal information (including credit card info) was snatched and is now floating around causing god knows what kind of nefarious trouble that we won’t know about until it’s too late. And we weren’t notified for quite some time, and didn’t get the full story for WEEKS. I am still skeptical we got the whole story, to be honest. If you feel your personal info is only worth the… what? $50-$100 they are compensating us with, I don’t know what to tell you.

And your advice of not biting the hand that feeds? Sony would do well to heed that advice themselves."

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"Let’s be realistic here. The only reason Sony is offering anything is to calm the masses. From their perspective it’s cheaper than a lawsuit. I’m very upset that my info and those of my family are now out there for sell to the highest bidder. I do feel there should be more choices on the list or at least an alternative of equal value. However at the same time I believe they only do so at the behest of their lawyers and the consensus of the public. They are trying to keep this disaster as cheap as possible. I’m less concerned with what free games make the list, and more concerned that 1 year of ID protection isn’t long enough. The info that was stolen probably won’t be active on the black market until next year sometime. Most likely after our free protection expires. This is an issue that is potentially life altering. I believe the lawsuits that are being executed will result in a verdict for the plaintiffs and I believe Sony feels this too."

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"To everyone who keeps on saying Sony owes us nothing you are wrong. They owe us everything as some of us may end up getting victimized in ways you don’t realize yet. When you lose your personal information like who knows what may happen, you may just get a visit at night from a man in a van……who also lives by the river…. But seriously the ID protection plan is good yes but inadequate. Hackers aren’t stupid (its why they hack cause they’re smarter than Sony’s out of date, hashed, circa 2007 security system) In one year after the data protection plan times out I’m sure that’s when hackers will start brushing the dust off of the information they stole and start really doing damage. Sony is playing lackluster ball and not giving the community what we need (we want games yes…) but we NEED you to find those hackers bust some skulls and return with our data safe and sound."

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"You are 100% completely wrong about biting the hand that feeds. Sony isn’t some benevolent overlord. They are a corporation that WE AS CUSTOMERS feed. The issue here is that Sony wants to offer a nice incentive to welcome back their fans to PSN. That’s all well and good.

What’s NOT ACCEPTABLE about this action / compensation is that ONLY SOME CUSTOMERS are getting it. Sony is only offering this very nice welcome back package to SOME people, not to everyone who was affected by the hack, data theft, and downtime. Joe Blow down the street gets to help himself to 2 nice free games. I get nothing. That’s not fair and it’s not right. Don’t try to feed me this whacked out baloney about us kissing Sony’s diamond-encrusted feed for even bothering to compensate us."

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"I do not believe that this is adequate compensation for having our personal information compromised. Gamers like myself, who have grown up with and cherished video games, are on the fence. This feeble offer of old games does not entice me to log back on to the PSN. Additionally, the time limit implemented for the entirety of your incentive package is, quite frankly, offensive. Lest you forget, Sony, it took you a full week to even send an e-mail to let us know, “Hey, maybe you guys should change some passwords.” In light of this, these games seem like rather piss-poor compensation. The rest of the package seems like an extended demo with yet more time restrictions. I’m not crying for more free junk (because that’s what 30 days of Playstation Plus is, Sony: junk)."

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"I’m just not convinced that you are trustworthy. If, God forbid, you get hacked again, will you try to cover it up before letting us know? Will you take the network offline for a month with no update information at all? For gamers like me, a lame 30 day demo package with some outdated games is not enough to make me want to put my credit card information back on your network. Just sayin."

And these responses were just from the FIRST PAGE of 131 PAGES!

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Dear Iggz;

Stop hacking the wootz.

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Tell us how you REALLY feel, Iggz!

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My question is this, I don't have a PSP, but my nephew does. Can I get two of the games for him and transfer them to him or something? Or did it have to be on my account prior to the outage? I know he would enjoy getting two free games for it.

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@steveken: You had to have an account prior to the outage and I believe you had to have the PSP linked to the account prior also.

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so, you think because the PSP wasn't on my account, when I try to download the items it won't work? Just wanting to make sure because I see the PSP portion on the page to do the downloads.

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Just FYI, Killzone:Liberation is downloading right now from the free stuff, so I guess it doesn't matter if you have a PSP or not. Going to get the second when this is done.