questionshow can i convince my wife that we should get…

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First even with the simple phones Verizon is one of the most expensive carriers out there. Check out http://123tellme.com and your monthly costs would remain about the same or you might even save a little. This is a no contract option to so you don't have to worry about a 2 year agreement and there is no credit check!

Saying oh darn wish we had a camera for this cute moment with the kids should help :-)

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Another, cheaper option is Republic Wireless. $19 a month for unlimited talk, text and data. They keep the costs down by having you connect to as many wifi networks as you have access to, and only connect to a cellular network when there are no wifi networks available.
2 caveats:
1) You have to buy the phone at full price, 249 +10 startup fee (which is not really so bad when it comes to cost of smart phones).
2) The cellular network they use is Sprint - not the best coverage - quite poor in some areas.
But, if you live in an area with strong Sprint coverage (ask people around you, or the sales people in stores that sell multiple providers' phones, e.g. Target, Walmart) then this can be a cheaper option.

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I just upgraded to an iPhone 4 for 99 cents (with a new 2 year contract) and I am totally addicted! I don't need the latest and greatest, I only upgraded because my old flip phone finally bit the dust. My point being you don't necessarily have to spend a lot on a smartphone.

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@ohcheri: If we get smartphones, we'll definitely be getting older ones (like the iPhone 4 or something similar) that won't cost us much. The problem isn't in the cost of the phone itself, it's the increase that the data plan tacks on...did you see a big difference in your bill when you got the iPhone?

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@oo7slice: the data plan definitely starts to add up. If you have wifi available most places, definitely go with the lowest data plan and be diligent about switching to wifi when you can, especially if you are doing things like sharing pictures. You probably won't use that much data, at least until you get used to having the internet in your pocket at all times, so don't feel the need to get a massive data package. I have ATT so I don't know what all your options are, but I have an app that allows me to track usage and alerts me if I'm close to going over. Also, they have (and I think Verizon does too) a 30 day return policy on new phones, so maybe you can try it out and see if the benefits are worth it if you have that option.

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@oo7slice: We were paying for too many minutes so we downgraded the minute/text plan and added the 3Gig data plan for $30 a month. Our bill ended up $10 a month more.

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@mml666: Thanks for the info..will definitely look into it. I know some people don't have good coverage when they are at our house, so I'll have to check if they are using sprint or not...Verizon has the best coverage in my area, otherwise I'd be using something different. Haven't checked in a while though, so it's probably worth revisiting.

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Verizon is expensive and they don't offer unlimited data. The only reason to be with them is if they are the only carrier available where you live, like me :(

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Just get one, with or without her. You'll find cool things you can do with it, and sooner or later she'll get sick of the 'could'a had one' and break down.

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I have an online business and do not approach my Data Limits with Verizon. I keep the WiFi Alert turned on and NEVER do any of the following with my phone:

Stream Music (put your music on a microSD card and put that in your phone) over the network
Stream a movie (Really?! Even my Note 2 is too small to enjoy that)
Download large files over the network (Wait for WiFi)
Upload or download pictures while on the network (AGAIN, wait for WiFi)
Skype/Facetime over the network
Make the phone a hotspot for any of the above activities.

Obviously NONE of these activities are necessary for you or you would already have a smart phone. The problem is a SMART phone needs a SMART owner.

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@morriea: The one that gets me in trouble is tethering.

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@videowallart: Good point. I probably should have written hotspot/tethering instead of just hotspot. It amounts to the same thing and can REALLY use the allotment up.

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I wouldn't pitch your real camera just yet. Yes, it is handy to have a phone, and they post ok pics to the internet, but when it comes time that you want real pictures of your kid to put in a frame, you don't want the cell phone kind.

I haven't made the switch myself. My hubbie had to have the original iPhone eons ago. I still have my old original RAZR. So nothing says you both have to have smart phones.

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Just keep staring at her and say "assimilate" over and over again.

But really, think about what she would use the phone for. There's the obvious bandwagon argument, and that non-smart phones have become very limited and are kind of crappy. They're also incredibly useful. You have all the time wasters like games, but there's good GPS and shopping apps...really just about anything you'd need. Most of which have some free version. It's also a fairly nice luxury to be able to look something up on the spot.

My dad was completely against smartphones, but when our upgrade came, he decided we should go for it. He's been pretty happy. He was in the "Oh I'll never use any of this" camp. While he isn't exactly a master, he gets pretty full use out of his phone.

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@bnbsouthworth: Only partially correct. Newer phones have nice cameras, but it's the app as much as the camera that makes the picture perfect. There are pics posted(you'll have to Google it) from an iPhone camera competition last year, and there's some amazing work done with a good cell camera and the right app.
On carriers, watch closely but generally prepaid is the way to go, whether it's Verizon, T-Mobile, or even Straight Talk, there's absolutely no reason to pay more than $50 per month per phone. If you go smartphone, you(and the spouse) will quickly discover how much you'll actually use all the minutes and data. I got my wife to come to the dark side last year, makig her ditch her Palm and her Tom Tom. A little weaning time and she's never looked back, finally had to move to an unlimited plan- like most everyone else.

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I vote for getting a prepaid plan, assuming your contracts are up. I use Straight Talk, but T-Moble is also said to have a good plan.

I pay $45 a month for unlimited talk,text, and data on a smartphone. I have yet to see a contract plan beat that.

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If Verizon has the best coverage in your area check out Page Plus. They use the same network but have much better rates.

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Introduce her to Pinterest, then inform her that "there's an app for that".

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I travel a lot, so I'm gonna stick with my company. If you don't travel much, you can shop for rates. But using a smart phone is habit forming. My wife didn't want one two years ago when our plan renewed, and I got one. She now has developed such jealousy, and will get one when next renewal comes around in a few months. It is the apps, the camera, the internet capability, the email, the car hookup, in addition to the texting she currently has. In almost two years I have never come even close to using all my minutes, as I use wifi or home wireless as much as possible, especially downloading apps, etc.

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@olperfesser: Same thing happened to me. I got the OG Droid right when it came out. My wife kept saying, "What do I need it for?" or, "But it costs much more, is it really worth it?"
But then every time we got in the car, she was playing with my phone. When we were sitting on the couch watching TV she was playing with my phone.

I turned to her and said, "You are getting your own smartphone"

And we never looked back.

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Thanks for all the advice...I'm now armed with a few more reasons than I had originally thought of, namely the GPS option since we have actually been looking at a GPS unit.

One other question, in case some of you are still following this thread: do any of you buy off contract? If so, does it really save money to do so? What are the advantages? Thanks everyone!

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@samstag: do you use page plus? I've never heard of it before but the prices do look good. Where are u seeing that it uses the Verizon network?

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@oo7slice: I switched to PP last April and I'm still using my old Verizon Droid, which won't work on any other network. You can use most Verizon phones on PP instead of buying one of theirs, but do a google search on the phone you're interested in beforehand because some just won't work (including Iphones, I think).

They don't advertise any of this and their customer service may not be helpful, but there's a lot of good information floating around in various forums. I don't remember where I first heard of them but I did a search like "port verizon droid to page plus" or similar and found everything I needed to know. Switching was quick and easy.