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Don't get the solder reflowed.

Reballing the contacts on the graphics chip is a permanent fix. There are many online providers of this service.

Most repair shops will just hit the chip with a heat gun until the solder melts back sort of into place. Reballing takes all the solder off the chip and re-adds new solder, ball-by-ball onto the hundreds of contacts on the GPU. When it's done it's a good solid permanent fix.

EDIT: \I commented on your earlier thread and recommended this site: but they are a little high.


@omnichad: is it bad that the fix was a reflow the first time? The impression I got from the site was that they went a little further, cleaning it out with some sort of special equipment and using fresh solder...seemed to be a little better than the average.

At this point, I'd rather just replace and get a PS3 slim. To my understanding, they don't have the heating problems the fat ones do. I'd lose my PS2 backwards compatibility, but whatever. More and more PS2 games are being rereleased as collections or showing up on the store. Wouldn't be a huge loss.


@thedogma: Fresh solder? I don't think you can call that a reflow unless they're just using words they think everyone has heard. I would try their warranty. Everyone makes mistakes, and you may have gotten someone who's just starting out.

Unless they pulled the chip off the board, balls and all and wet all the contacts on the board with fresh solder after cleaning. I'm not sure that's possible, but I can't imagine how else you could use fresh solder and call it a reflow.

A reflow won't hurt, but from what I've heard it's only very rarely a permanent fix.


@omnichad: Likely was just a reflow with a fancier name, then. I'll ask when they call me back

EDIT: just checked the site, they only do a regular reflow, but have some fancy equipment for it that they claim most people dont.


@thedogma: Probably something like this:

Certainly better than a hair dryer and a screwdriver (some people are literally charging for doing this). And it does have its uses.


When this happened to my PS3 18 months ago I did the at-home fix with a heat gun. It worked, then it died again. Then I sent it to Sony and for $99 they fixed it. It happened again. I sent it in again and they sent me a different system.

I sold the replacement system and got a newer version, but I pulled the hard drive from it and did an image file of the drive before selling it.

I then put the image file onto the drive of my new PS3 and all was well.

Honestly, you can't wrong with Sony's service and the free shipping both ways.


Threadjack: Dogma, When your BOC arrives you will need to bend the mylar wings at the silver line.


Xbox 360 FTW! Just kidding...


I had a ylod a week & a half ago. ended up buying a new system.
if I didn't have playstation plus I would have lost all my saved game data.


@jsimsace: FLAME WAR!!!

@wilcononomous: I'm thinking about just replacing the system. Only problem is I don't have everything backed up with Plus. Probably around 60% of my save files. I think my best bet is to get an external hard drive and use the backup process and load it to the new system (since I can't just swap the hard drive)...but those are all costs that I really don't want to take on right now.

...being jobless sucks.


How many of you with YLOD owners are actually knuckleheads who put your gaming console inside an enclosed cabinet or 3-wall shelf?

I guarantee you will keep getting that YLOD after repair if your console is not on a completely open and well ventilated area.

You can't take a radiator out of a car and expect it to perform. It will overheat, break down parts, and fail.

Heat must be "pulled" away from computers and consoles, not fresh air blown onto the unit. It's simple physics.


I've had my 160GB fat for 3 years and never ever had a problem. It's not that I "got a good unit" as if others were bad, it's that mine is on an open shelf.

Additionally, the "reflow" fix is temporary and is supposed to allow you enough time to backup your hard drive (which can be 10 straight hours) so you can restore all your content to another ps3. You can also buy a newer ps3 and transfer content using a cat5/ethernet cable super easy.


@cravit8: Nope, was always in a well ventilated, open area.

It broke a second time and I got it reflowed again. The guy who fixed it suggested keeping it flat (I always had it standing up) and so far, so good. But it is backed up now, all except my current Borderlands 2 progress, but that's up to date with Plus. If this one breaks again, I'll just buy a new one, yeah.