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Sounds interesting. I think the major consoles out right now have their fair share of issues, and if Valve's alleged new console could address those for a nice new gaming experience, that'd be great. I'm a bit skeptical, though. Also, I doubt they'd get many PC gamers switching over from their PC's any time soon. PCs have too many differences / advantages over consoles. I'd think you'd be more likely to see people move from the other consoles to this new one.

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I love the idea. Its going to essentially be a pre-built PC that plugs into the TV to play Pc games of both Steam and possible competitors (such as Origin)

I keep a 360 around because my brother still plays console games (and I do on certain occassions, such as ME3 cause I refuse to use Origin.) and I think that if I could get him this Steam Box, he would gradually learn to PC game, even if it is with the pre-designed controller that came with it.

PROS: * Can run PC games on Steam and possibly competitiors games

* Brings PC gaming to a new section of the population that couldnt afford a good gaming PC (depending on pricing)

* Lets PC developers reach this population that prefer consoles, through a developer friendly service as Steam, who doesnt charge Devs to update their games or release DLC.

* No monthly subscription fee.

* With Steam's daily deals, freeplay weekends, weekend deals, and midweek deals, the system will eventually pay for itsself in savings

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@straub: I definitely agree with it bringing other consoles over to the "Steam Box," but I think it might pull in some PC gamers. Not necessarily converting them to full-blown console users, but I'm probably not too wrong in thinking that most people who use computers for games also have either a console, or show some interest in getting one. I think that those who might be interested will likely go with Valve's potential console instead of an Xbox, since those guys are likely to have a Steam account and feel a certain degree of loyalty to Valve. I kind of see it like Apple fans and how when they make a new step in technology, they go with Apple products. So, those guys who had an Apple computer, when they decided to get an mp3 player, went with the iPod, and when they wanted a touch-screen phone, the iPhone, and then the iPad for a tablet. In the same sense, those who are more loyal to Valve will likely get their product when they decide to step into the world of console gaming.

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@teenracer6: The PS3 was released at $599 for the 60 gig and $499 for the 20 gig well below the $799 USD price you stated. It also has been the main reason attributed for the slow initial sales for the PS3.

From what I have seen the system is rumored to be a Core i7 with 8 gig of ram. They are basically selling a gaming PC with a restricted OS that only plays steam games. I have a feeling most people would rather get a PC that matches the specs and just use steam to get the games they want from Valve.

As far as repairing the system yourself, it sounds great in theory but you will have to replace with the identical part which is not always easy 2 years down the road. I am sure the rig will have limited driver support and will shun home upgrades. You need to have uniform specs for game development for optimal performance. As this is going after the console gaming market people do not want to tweak settings to get the game to run optimized they want to turn on and play.

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@raider9924: I agree. I like the idea in theory (especially if it's shaped like a Companion Cube!) but I feel like most people will prefer the PC. They're in control of the hardware and EVERY PC gamer I know prefers a keyboard and mouse set up over a controller, which the console would logically have.

If it's just a computer in a pretty Steam box, then Valve will have to come out with a new model every year. The PS3 and Xbox360 came out half a decade ago, and can still, to an extent, keep up with modern PC games. Plenty will perform better on a PC, sure, but the systems can still RUN the game, is what I'm trying to say.

Consoles are made with hardware a bit ahead of its time (for lack of better phrasing) so that the console can have a good shelf life. If Valve makes a PC that hooks up to a TV, the shelf life will be as good as a cell phone's. And probably wouldn't be too profitable, as computers and gaming systems dont fall into the "regularly replace" category for most people.

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@teenracer6: More PROS: * With the box using PC parts, you may be able to fix any broken parts your self, instead of shipping it away and paying an exorbant fee and waiting for it to come back.

CONS: I honestly dont see any, unless the price is outrageous, but since the PS3 was released at $799 USD Retail when it first was announced, that sets the bar rpetty high for outrageous pricing.

Also, this would work out for someone who is like me, that Pc games, but has to share the computer with a family. I hate tying up the family PC because I am playing a game, and this would keep the PC open for others.

All in all, I see nothing but positives, and it will force Sony and Microsoft (and Nintendo) to step their game up BIG TIME to stay in competition, or quickly fall in the dust.