questionswhat is deals.woot?

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@buchera: I agree - if the little red arrow thing said "vote up" or something at the bottom, I think it would be more clear. I've scanned thru the site for about 10 minutes now and didn't find an explanation. Maybe it's buried somewhere I didn't check, or maybe I'm supposed to be social media savvy enough to just know what it does, but I think it at least deserves coverage in the FAQ or in a "new to deals.woot?" page.

I voted up your comment to appreciate the irony of it :)

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I can't figure out the little Red Houses that change into tombstones (RIP). Being the green wooter that I am, I am guessing that it has something to do with the Comments people are making on the deal, but it would be nice to have an explanation of it somewhere, especially for people completely new to woot

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You forgot "How is deals.woot?", like in how do I stop it from changing the deal as I move my mouse around the screen - sometimes to a different application, sometimes to a deal I might want to view if I could get it to stay up long enough and not be replaced with something else before I can read it, much less somehow get to something I can click to access it.

A nice multimedia flashy animated extravaganza it might be. Useful for actually getting to the deals it is not.

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@gbohling: The challenge here is how do we introduce the idea of the red arrow symbolizing votes to the new person (since it's only a one-time lesson) but not clutter up the interface with extra text / explanations on every occurrence of the graphic.

We originally had the button say "votes" below the number, but with the dozens of red arrows in view at any given time, it felt very noisy. The site's necessarily pretty visually complex already, so removing the text seemed to help.

The solution is likely in having a slight bit more explanation on first visit to the site. We're looking into a few ways to handle that that still manage to stay simple/clean (since too much explanation, [say, as in this comment] will mostly result in people reading none of it).

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@thomasz: We're looking into it. In the meantime rest your mouse on the deal you want to see in the Sponsored Deals box on the right hand rail. That should keep the deals from scrolling.

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So far just looking through the About Us section, one thing I noticed, and this may be addressed elsewhere, is that there is no real promise of a good/safe buying experience.

Something as simple as: "Is Deals.Woot safe?"

"Why yes, we only provide sellers with a background of good customer service to help reassure our wooters that these deals are not too good to be true. Now sentient being, not today, but soon..."

or if you're running only off of wooters power to shut down sketchy deals from bad sites, you might want to put that somewhere expressly.

Thats about as far as i got.

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I agree - it is too confusing trying to figure out what the red arrows/boxes next to each deal link are for, and how they work the way it is. There needs to be some sort of description somewhere. It would also be nice to have a clearer place to provide suggestions/comments on this site.

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@dave bug: An easy solution would be a one (or two) time pop up bubble the first time a person mouses over the icon. Perhaps a [don't show this anymore] button within the bubble to prevent it from becoming a bother while still providing guidance to new users.

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You can also see what the online community has to say about Deals.Woot over at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woot.com#Deals_Woot

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Having site ratings would be really nice. Maybe even is it something that fellow Wooters could do. Or even make it as simple as having the Wooter who found the deal give the site a personal rating (5 Woots it is safe and I have used it or 0 if they have not and have no idea). I know things start to get a little sticky with that though, having to rely on the person to be honest and such...

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How would I post a deal that doesn't have a URL? A coupon code I receive in the mail or an offer I see in a paper. It looks like the first thing required on the Add a deal portion is a URL entry.

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Would also like to understand how the whole "reputation" element works. Does it have to do with voting?

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@dave bug: Sure, I can appreciate trying to keep things looking clean. An easy solution would just be an entry in the FAQ on the voting arrows and other main features (like, what's a tattle?), and then an "I'm new to deals.woot" link somewhere fairly easy to find that would lead to the FAQ.

Either that or a mouseover on the button.

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What's with the formatting on deals.woot? I have to scroll right and left to see the whole page...at 1024 X 768. Woot! should either change its formatting so it adjusts to a computer's screen size, or put less words on the page, or maybe sell wide screen monitors on Woot! for $10 until all Wooters have purchased wider monitors; screen width then won't be an issue.

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I didn't see anything about RSS feeds?

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What is the policy for when you submit a deal that went nowhere (it didn't get any votes) but it is still technically alive... but has since expired.

Do we "tattle" on our own listings? The word "tattle" almost implies that this could look bad... i.e., if too many of my posted deals are "tattled" on, my "reputation" could look bad.

I don't want to "tattle" on my own listing until I understand the ramifications of this... at the same time, I don't want to keep up a listing whose deal has expired, even if everyone has a snowball's chance in hades of even seeing it at this point.

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@bigellow: Oh, it's bad to reply to a question that is so old. Lucky for you I'm so very compulsive. Hopefully you'll see this reply.

Yes, Tattle. That's what the button is for. It makes everyone's likfe much much easier. Woot staff are happy to have you do that (although it might take a day or two for them to get to it if it wasn't on the Popular tab).

Questions that are no longer active, or on the first page of Popular, often are ignored. If the last comment was days and days ago, you've got to think that almost no one (except me, and perhaps @hobbit or @wootvan) will ever see it.

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I too am curious what the reputation is based off of...

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@spritle: The answer is here: http://www.woot.com/blog/viewentry.aspx?id=10781. But shouldn't that info be on the deals.woot site somewhere?

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@sehackma: In case you were still wondering, Shirt.Woot is the only Woot site that will ship to Canada.

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@wizzdingo: I think this is a necessary question, but I will have to ruminate a bit on how exactly to answer it. Essentially, this is the wild west, but we there are some sheriffs in town, and the community has been deputized. (In plainer terms, we can't confirm that all deals posted are reputable, but we have methods for the community to report issues, and moderators helping to clear out the worst issues.)

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@bearyml: We've discussed establishing a vendor url that could work like these deals threads, allowing people to comment and discuss their interactions with that vendor. I think I'd prefer that to a specific rating system, since it allows for much finer level of detail of issues, and potentially some back-and-forth discussion.

It may be a little bit before we implement that, so I'm hoping people are good about checking back in with deals they've completed once everything has worked out for them. Then someone searching for that vendor would hopefully come across useful comments about previous deals sold by them.

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@dave bug: Maybe if the arrow had more arrowness to it instead of Monopoly houseness. A couple of fine line arrows at the top might do it. Or would that just read as a roof? A hover hint can do wonders.

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Well to start with the link yall sent sux

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I know the little red houses are getting a lot of attention right now, but really it is the first "sticking point" I think most user will encounter. I am not sure how you could go about this, but what if the red box appeared the way it does now on load and when a user hovers over the box the "rank number" changed to the word "vote" and the house divided in to two sections...imagine a house with points on the top and bottom and clicking the top half voted it up and the bottom half voted it down. After the user voted, it would return to its "voted" (or initial) state. How about something like that?

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fwiw, i loved the email announcing i'd been invited to join deals.woot. I blogged about it here http://doingwords.com/?p=1720

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So does the algorithm "bump" deals where woot makes an affiliate commission?

Oh well, another source for deals for me to post elsewhere.... ;)

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How about a button to display 50 deals (fewer pages) like preferences in Google.
Oops, added this previously in the "wrong" area.

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@doughh: yeah, it was disconcerting on my laptop monitor of the same resolution. Looks like about 1100 pixels wide and I even had trouble scrolling. So, I moved the window to my bigger (1280 wide) display. Voted UP (if that means anything).
(P.S. Comments/Responses should be indented underneath the original. A response might wind up on a different page than the original post - not good)

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Not sure if this was mentioned, looked through most comments and didn't see it. I think it would be nice to have catergories for the types of deals. Like, electronics, clothing, toys, ect. That way if you are looking for something or just have more intrest in one type of deal you could more easily locate it.

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Looks similar to Woot, Wine, Kids, shirt, sellout, whatever.com.

It took me too long to figure out this is a "Hot Deals" site mostly pointing to 3rd party products, probably cause I'm slow or I'm only on my 3rd cup of coffee (probably both).

Than again, it looks more like a main portal so instead of going to woot.com I should go to deals.woot.com and see everything on one page.

How do they get a speaker on the Personal Soundtrack Shirt? Do I wash warm or cold cycle?

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the voting process is a bit confusing. does it register the vote when you click the red button? do you have to save the vote?

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Okay this may have been addressed, but I find the reply feature hard to follow, as only the name of the person you are replying to appears. Sort of hard to follow the context of the reply, no?

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@whirsnap: One thing about voting that is not confusing is that if you attempt to vote and haven't bought anything from one of the other Woot sites you are politely told via a pop-up. This sort of instant feedback is very helpful.

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@yeller: i think you're right, I also had trouble with the concept at first, but I think it's because I wasn't really expecting a site that gathered deals from woot.

I wonder if, in breaking out into different sections, a coupon-code type section would be useful to some wooters. I know it's primarily what my mom looks for in web shopping and it would be interesting to see a community-type structure for that.

overall I think this is interesting but visually overwhelming. In fact, I've logged in twice now but not really stayed to poke around because I felt it was just all over the place. I think some additional organization would go a long way and the FAQ section could use some help too. the giant white box on the left and the video discourages people from scrolling to find the actual written FAQ (which, let's face it, if you're looking for FAQs you probably want to do some reading.) and the red question header on the dark background just gets lost.

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I too don't understand voting. Perhaps a "How do I participate" entry would be good.

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I love deals woot, might be a good thing.

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add another "?" to the voting thing...I see them, I see that you vote with the red house-y arrow things...but in the end this does...what? An easy, one-time, short (VERY short) tutorial (ala woot style of course) might help....and if there is one already, it's not jumping out enough at me to have made me go there yet (and consider me a non-geek wooter -- with the term geek being used in the most loving and jealous way possible).....

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@madjohn: ok, so i see your response (thanks - i'm a wooter :) ), and a 0 with an up arrow. so all i need to do is click that, and i've voted? would be nice to have just a little bit of feedback. yes, once i figure it out, it won't be a problem, but it is confusing and (at least to me) not obvious how it works. ah, well. maybe i'm gettin' old :)

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Oh happy day!! I finally found it!! :D

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Seems like a marketplace of deals (liquidations, overstocks, etc.). So a great resource for someone who cares more for finding the deal (shopping) than having an experience with the vendor (woot's brand). Seems odd for woot to have done this.

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I will be using this as my home page for all things woot. Now I can get rid of those pesky separate links for wine.woot, sellout.woot, and woot! itself. I can't wait to free up them 1s and 0s!

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I also find voting confusing. I read the FAQs and still don't get it. Having said that, you might want to consider making the arrows progressively larger as they gain in popularity. Also why not delete "done deals" rather than having the tombstones??

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Well, me I'll stay with the Woot. Don't really understand what is going on - I watch most of the 'Deal' sites and don't see anything different here other than an aggeration. (is that a word - meaning an grouping of deals).

I'll stick with WooT! Even sellout too :)

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Would love to have a clearer explanation of the voting. Why can I only vote something up OR down...why not the option to go both ways on it?