questionsdrivers: what's your opinion on "creepers"?

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@curtisuxor: This wouldn't explain the people who inch forward half a dozen times making full stops between each, would it?

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Maybe they're just trying to draw the other team off-sides.

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Maybe they drive stick. Maybe you are assuming they are trying to get a jump on the light.

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@curtisuxor: I guess that's possible; sometimes they almost go halfway thru the intersection though! I've never driven anything but an automatic so you may be correct if they are driving a standard. Thanks for the input!

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I should have framed my answer better. I drive stick and inching into the intersection just happens if its on a slope. I prefer to use my brakes as little as possible for more momentum helping off the line as well as for the longevity of the brakes.

I know of whom you speak though, but I don't care as long as they don't block the crosswalk for a crossing pedestrian. I am in the right position to trigger the light change so what they do doesn't affect me in any way. It bugs me as a pedestrian, but not when I'm driving.

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@dealseekerdude: I see it all the time around here, people who literally crawl 1/2 way through an intersection on a red light. Some of them hit the halfway mark, and then flatten the gas. Extremely dangerous, extremely retarded.

@curtisuxor: actually, between the clutch, and the brakes wearing out, your brakes are easy as pie to replace, whereas doing a clutch means either dropping the transmission, or pulling the engine. Neither of these is simple, or if you hire someone else to do it, this is expensive. When you're at a full stop, your brakes are not wearing, as the friction pad is clamping down against the rotors/drums, holding you stable. It is unsafe to sit at a stoplight with your brakes off either from the potential of rolling forward/backwards, or if someone rear ends you, there's nothing to prevent you from flying into the intersection.

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Wow, was I way off. A "creeper" to me is that flat board with 4 independently moving wheels that you lie on to get under the car for repairs. My bad ;)

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It's actually a good tactic, especially around the holidays or when you know it's a day when people drink. I've seen 3 collisions, not accidents when someone runs the red and slams the guy going into a green.

It's not funny.