dealshp quad-core desktop 10gb ddr3 1tb hd desktop…

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"Back in my day, 10GB was an impressive HARD DRIVE!" true story

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If anyone has any input or rather cons about this, I would love to hear it!

I too the last computer I bought was a dell studio 1710 refurb from woot! Around 4 years ago! It is still kicking, but 10GB of ram sounds nice (except when they put the max @ 32GB!!!!) and overall it seems like a great buy!

Can I expect this to last me at least 4-5 years? If so, I'm in.

A lot of times people trash HP so that is the only reason why I am skeptical on this...

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JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP:

A quick search showed this for $599 brand new on new egg back when.
Could I expect a brand new super fast system (better than this) for $600? If so, I'd spend the extra $ but that would be my limit

Part 2 Techie question:

One of the reviewers mentioned the idea of re installing windows to avoid the bloatware
If I reinstall from the original won't the bloatware be right back on?
What is the best method of installing a stripped down version of windows?
Thanks in advance!

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Am I right that it doesn't support HDMI out? I don't see it listed, but with specs like this I'm surprised that it would be missing. Anybody?

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@firstaccount: I think what they're saying is that the people who installed windows on this machine also installed other programs. If you format your drive and install a fresh windows it will get rid of all the other bloatware.

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@firstaccount:

Depends on installation media. Typically HP computers have part of the drive partitioned and the necessary information is stored on the partition to do a re-install. You aren't given disks and their pre-installed software will prompt you to make a recovery disk on first boot(iirc). You can remove HP's bloatware, either use the built in add/remove software or something like CCleaner.

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Yes, the machine as is should last you 4-5 years(barring random part failure). Not for gaming though. The psu would support a card like the Radeon 7750 though, which is good enough for nearly all games on the market. (More or less, anyway.)

@gabesmalley:

The gpu on this machine is on the cpu die so you only get relatively standard ports. HDMI is not one of them. If you want HDMI out on this machine you will have to install a video card.

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If you'd like a do-everything inexpensive PC, this will foot the bill-- the CPU isn't exactly awesome but the GPU wipes the floor with Intel 2500 and 4000 without resorting to a discrete graphics card, and the wimpy power supply in here likely has enough to spare for a Radeon 6670 for tandem use.

It's beyond me why they throw in a 2GB DIMM and throw out dual-channel. If there's one instance where memory can bottleneck, it's with an APU (especially asymmetric crossfire users). The northbridge supports PC3-14900 but I'm guessing it's locked in the BIOS so you're likely stuck at 1667Mhz.

@ipegot: The APU alone can average 40fps on Battlefield with modest settings.

@gabesmalley: DVI-D can easily be adapted to HDMI.

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@jamesbottomtooth: Absolutely! "Back in my day" I dashed over to brag to a friend in IT that I had just bought a PC with a 10 GB hard drive. He just smirked and told me that was "overkill." I think my phone has that much space, nowadays!

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@shinespark:

I'm of the opinion that that says more about BF3 than the gpu. It more or less meets the minimum listed specs for the game so it isn't suprising that the game is then playable on it. I personally would still rather have a dedicated card.

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Not a bad computer for someone who not going to do much, but if you arent you could possibly find cheaper solutions. As for gamers or people who want to watch hdtv using your computer I would look else were. IF you want to do that you will spend at least an extra $300 dollars upgrading the graphics card and the power supply .

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@ipegot: There's no real point of using the APU in the first place if you're bothering with discrete graphics since a Pentium with a GPU will significantly outperform it in many respects.

@benmason: Seriously man, even the Atom GMAs can do HDTV.

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@jamesbottomtooth: My first computer used 360kb 5.25 inch floppies as well as cassette tapes for "big" programs. The first computer I had with a hard drive was a 386 with an 80MB HD. It was a 25MHz 386 DX (Google it), and an 80MB drive back then cost as much as a cheap notebook today.

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@ALL_U_Young_Whippersnappers: All this talk about 80MB+ hard drives "back in the day"... my first hard drive was a cartridge drive. IBM called it a Ramkit. About the size of a pizza box, it contained a 14" platter that held 512K Words (a whole MB of data. You still had to load your source code from a deck of punch cards, though!)
But seriously, I've purchased several refurb HP systems from Woot and have had no problems with them. You can call HP within 90 days buy a "Care Pak" to put them back under HP warranty in most cases.

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I have to comment every time woot offers HPHPHPHPHP refurbs...mine failed after 24 hours, tech support said it was out of warranty and would not help. STAY AWAY.

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@gravityhr: They come with a 90 day warranty so your comment doesn't make any sense?

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So my first machine was a Packard Bell 386sx. I upgraded and installed a Math-coProcessor (Yes, floating point was not always on the CPU die). I think it had about 20 MB HD or so. It ran DOS and I think I got Windows 2.0 on it when it first came out. Ran slowly so I went back to DOS and wondered why in the world anybody would want "Windows"...WordPerfect was king and was NOT WYSIWYG.

I also worked on Mainframes with 3270 terminals. Anybody remember those?

Currently typing this on a Macbook Air, with 4GB of Memory and a Core i5. Orders of magnitude more processing power than my Packard Bell.

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@gravityhr: I had a similar issue. My computer (Envy H8) wouldn't resume from sleep mode and would just crash. HP seems to have some sort of disconnect with the refurbs because they said mine was out of warranty when I first called as well. They sorted that out, and I ended up shipping the computer there so they could "fix" it. The problem was not fixed when they shipped it back to me. I ended up just returning the computer to Woot and promised myself I would never buy an HP again, especially not a refurbished HP. Which sucks because there are SOOO MANY of them on the market, making them cheaper than most.

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@benmason: Actually, you could do way cheaper than that. Newegg has a Gigabyte GTX650 with 2gb of mem for $109 plus free shipping. You also get a free copy of Assassin's Creed III (or download key). Corsair 600CX psu have been as low as $39.99 on Newegg after a mail in rebate. Similar power supplies have been on sale with no mail in rebates. I believe you could get a lower watt psu for the GTX 650 as well.

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Well, it's "all of the above".
It's a refurb. It could be a brand new open display item, or something that's been returned- twice.
They sold it to the guy that sold it here that sold it to you- that 90 day might be over by now.
It is what it is. No HDMI, no 6gb video, no fins, no portholes. If it works good it's a good deal.

Otherwise, goto Frys. $498, 8gb, 2tb, brand new.
"Asus Desktop PC CM1831-US-3AD with AMD FX-8120 8-Core Processor

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AAnd ... I forgot.
In my day I had a Northstar Advantage.
Operating system, etc was on a floppy. I mean, you booted up, opened Wordstar, worked for a while, saved your files, exited, and carried all that with you on the same floppy. Lots of room left over.
I had to wait for the 5mb hard drive to be evolved.

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If I wanted to install a graphics card with dedicated memory into this computer, would that be an option?

I was looking at building a budget gaming desktop with specs very similar to this machine, but with a "SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card" (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933).

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@tulsatrey: The specs say it has a PCI Express x16 slot available, so you can add a dedicated GPU.

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Sounds like a good unit, definitely better than my current HP desktop and it was twice as much 6 years ago. To those who add a higher power video card be aware that a higher wattage power supply might be needed.

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@tulsatrey: Use a 6500 or 6600 series GPU so you can get better crossfire performance with the IGP; they're not much more and will give a significant performance advantage in most cases.

edit: That reminded me, the predecessor 5450 was the best card you could crossfire with the awful IGP with the 890GX chipsets; kind of a blast from the past.