dealscorsair performance 3 128gb ssd (refurbished) for…

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As posted last time this was up, the last thing I would ever want to buy is a refurbished SSD. These have a very real life expectancy and who knows what abuse this took before it was sent back to the factory. For all we know, these things have half their life left. 30 day warranty is simply not enough, and if I wanted to gamble away $74.99 I would go to a casino where I would have a chance to win.

There are plenty of new SSD's for around this price, and if you can afford $30 more you can get one that has a good and solid reputation that might even last you a few years. A refurbished SSD is simply not a deal that can be trusted.

By the way, is this the same model? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233154

If so, it seems it is also a discontinued drive that didn't get stellar reviews either when it was new.

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Damn good price. Older model, but it's refurb, so the buggy issues will be fixed and current FW will be installed, which is was these buggy ones needed at the time. Still a question in my mind if it was refurbed correctly, but only one way to know.

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Limits are real, but also real long. Here's some interesting reading on the fears of SSD lifespan:

http://maxschireson.com/2011/04/21/debunking-ssd-lifespan-and-random-write-performance-concerns/

Note he does his math using absurdly rigorous usage that anyone is unlikely to hit outside of specific intensive usages, but then that audience is not very likely to need the warning in the first place.

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The Sandisk Extreme 120GB has been available at Amazon for $80 a few times this past month. I snagged a 240GB for $155 at the same time.

http://camelcamelcamel.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Gb-s2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDX-120G-G25/product/B006EKJCWM

I'd pass on this deal.

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Note that Corsair only offers a 30-day warranty on refurbished products.
http://www.corsair.com/us/support/warranty/

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One persons unlucky harddrive failure can be your great deal.

lol

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Idnneed a couple dozen of them.

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Even refurbed, this is 1,000,000 times better than the junk OCZ drives that everyone has been gobbling up lately.

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@spyder69696969: Well yeah, so is my pet rock and his pet chisel. They get along famously.

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@mikeknight01: When looking at the article, it's important to know he's calculating for SLC drives (most often seen in enterprise class machines, much more expensive), not MLC drives (far more common in consumer grade).

If you notice in the comments below...:
>Micker on May 3, 2011
>Assuming a lifespan of 100,000 write cycles per block..
>
>LOL, all the new 25nm ssd drives are rated at 3000 write cycles per block, down from 5000 for the
>34nm. Where did you pull the 100k from, SLC memory??

>>Reply
>>Max Schireson on May 3, 2011
>>Yes, I was referring to SLC memory as used in higher end SSDs like the X25E. Completely
>>different story with lower end consumer MLC drives, I’d be very careful about lifespan there.
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>>– Max

Now most people don't abuse their drives that way, but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone using them for testing some homegrown software application or something like that. MLC drives have roughly 10x fewer write cycles than SLC.

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On the up side, a 'failure' of this type - meaning exhausting the usable write cycles of the drive - does not kill / brick / melt / destroy the device. It simply becomes read-only. You can still access and back up your data after that happens.

Also, I'm not trying to cause alarm, I have 3 home PC's with SSD and I love them - one is more than two years old and still going strong. I simply want to point out that if they were used for something more than casual usage, that could be bad...

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Narfcake is right, Corsair is a decent brand, and OCZ drives are simply reckless endangerment of your data (had two fail in different ways, will always hate OCZ forever). I would take a Corsair over ocz any day.

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Anyone who has been following SSD pricing knows this is a TERRIBLE price for a slow refurbished device.

I bought the Sandisk Extreme from Tigerdirect last week, same size, new, full warranty, free shipping, for $79.

That's $10 more for a VASTLY superior in every possible way SSD.

Woot should be embarrassed about this non-deal.

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@liquidblue1: I know this is so against internet culture, but I'm going to go ahead and say thanks for pointing that out anyway. Good call. That's what I get for being lazy and just passing along something that had been sent to me a while back. Also, good to know they just become read only.

Now I'm kind of curious to see what the math would look like for an average user. Obviously can be written to far less, but an average user will not write nearly that much. People testing software prototypes fall soundly into the category of people I suspect don't need the warning.

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The average user really has nothing to worry about.

My "daily driver" gaming rig has 2 Kingston Hyper-X MLC SSD's in a "RAID 0" configuration as its primary drive running for 2 years now, with no signs of errors. One of my applications used almost daily is Second Life, a virtual 3D world that relies very heavily on network and storage I/O for the textures that are applied to the different surfaces of 3D objects in the virtual world. It maintains a cache containing many tens of thousands of files, most of which are only a few KB. When the cache gets full, it does a LOT of cache maintenance, which results in a lot of I/O as different parts of the world are loaded.

Short of other, more intense, very specialized operations, I doubt most people will have problems with MLC flash in a reasonable lifespan of the devices.