dealsvizio vo37lf 37” 1080p lcd hdtv - refurbished for…

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Lots of cool deals being added to Moofi! Yay! Keep 'em coming!!

http://deals.woot.com/deals/search?q=moofi.woot.com

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Not a great price -- see Amazon. Only savings is on shipping

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@jagrime2: would appear to me that they have a new set for $499 with free shipping. depending on your perspective a 20% discount for refurb may not be enough. they don't show this model in stock and I didn't compare differences but here's one of them newfangled links that allow you to click and view another site:

http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-VA370M-37-Inch-Full-1080p/dp/B002VPDL12/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1277495668&sr=1-1

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looks like there's the same TV 2 spots down for 20 bucks cheaper. that's weird, i wonder why this one is more expensive...

http://deals.woot.com/stores/moofi.woot.com

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@t3fwd2: Different model numbers one is VO370M and the other is VO37LF; I thought the same thing. Anyone know how the features differ?

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bunk, another non-deal deal. Newegg has a nice one at that price and less including shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889237018

Careful though, while Newegg admits that their's is 60Hz, I'd assume this one is too. If you're going to watch action flicks or video game on it, you want at least 120Hz

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Correction, the newegg is a 32", but it is NOT refurbished.

Although if you go to a Sears or something like that and get an old Sharp Aquos scratch and dent, you can do much better. Seen it. When it comes to LCD TV's if you are willing to do scratch and dent, I've found B&M are often cheaper.

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I'm pretty sure that the human eye can't discern faster than 60 Hz. I think the only reason you'd ever want more than 60 Hz, and 120 Hz, is for 3D. That way the TV can do 60 Hz for each of two images, one for each eye.

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@flaeor: wrong. Obviously you've never played any games that required HD or are any good. See a typical CRT monitor refreshes it screen at 120 hz these LCDs refresh at 60Hz which is significantly slower, thus during intense gaming you will notice ghosting in the lcd crystals, which make it look blurry. Some tvs have gaming modes to partially correct this problem. Faster the Hz the clearer the image will look during action scenes or when the crystals need to change.

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@fhi08: You are still incorrect. CRT's use raster scanning, while LCD refresh every pixel at the same time. The refresh rate on a TV is different than the response time(more or less equivalent measurement) on an LCD.

Even so, response time is a completely different measurement in an LCD. It's a measurement of the time it takes for a pixel to go black-white-black(rise and fall), instead of a measurement of the time it takes for the CRT to draw an image with an electron beam.

Ghosting on LCDs is caused by high response times, not refresh rates. Gaming mode has nothing to do with ghosting, it's to combat the length of time it takes for the hardware to process the input video signal and translate it to the display.

60hz, 120hz, 240hz. Means nothing for an LCD unless it concerns the backlight(which it never does). The number considered the threshold for ghosting on LCDs is somewhere above 16ms response time. This surpasses that by far, at least as far as the spec indicates.