dealsocz vertex 3 vtx3-25sat3-120g 2.5" 120gb sata iii…

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Technically a duplicate, but because the title is so vague from the original deal I upvoted this one, the duplicate.

Here is the original. http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/1db9267a-4156-413c-82b8-0c6b8e791a12/shell-shocker-deal-exclusive-jaw-dropping-savings-on-pc-components-and-electroni#2

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Insanely good deal. The last SSD they had up on a sale like this was the Samsung 128GB, and that was $89.99, which was an awesome deal too. However, this (Vertex 3) is a faster SSD than that Samsung and it's selling for less today! I have one of these and they are LIGHTNING fast. My PC goes from BIOS to my Windows 7 desktop in 10-15 seconds flat.
I'm sharing this with my friends, now that I've already put my own order in ;) lol.

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@caffeine_dude: Yes I went over and posted my bad as it didn't show up when I listed.

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OCZ Vertex drives have a very high failure rate. Its worth the extra money to get a SSD thats reliable.

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@gobgava: Can you elaborate?

Reliability (or the reported lack thereof) is really the only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on an SSD yet.

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@gobgava: Proof? Source? Alternative? You speak these thing yet you give us no reason to believe what you say.

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OCZ Vertex are good drives if you take care in setting up your computer for an SSD. One of the things I failed to do with my Vertex 2 is disable Sleep and Hibernation. S / H can cause your SSD (of any brand) to panic lock. The Vertex, unlike some of the higher end brands, does not have a reset switch on the drive itself causing you to RMA upon failure.

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So with a SSD you can't use hibernate? Man, that's going to totally suck since I hibernate my PC almost every night, so I can pick up with my work right where I left off. =(

Is there anything out there that'll make it so sleep/hibernate won't be a problem? That seems like it would be a pretty huge issue in putting SSDs in a laptop.

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@rrussell: Over the years I've heard (pure speculation) that SSDs have become more reliable than they used to be. I currently run two OCZ Agility 3's and have been for the past two months. I use one as a boot drive and the other for games that I want to load faster. So far these two drives have performed great and am very pleased with them, however I am keeping in mind the general rule of thumb with SSDs is that they are performance drives, not storage drives. As long as you don't store documents and personal files you don't want to lose on them, you should have no fear of their reliability. (After all a fresh Windows 7 install takes what? An hour or two out of your day?)

I'd say go for an SSD as a boot drive or to run programs faster. If you're that worried about reliability, hold out for some cheap Hybrid drives: http://bit.ly/MIPYt6

If you go for SSD follow this guide to improve its life: http://bit.ly/xTYu7Q

First link: Tom's HW
Second Link:Overclocker.net (ran out of char.)

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I have one of these drives in my main computer. When I originally purchased it, I tried to use it as my main boot device (C: drive with Windows installed). This caused but one issue: when I would watch any video with Flash, it would freeze and then blue screen, rebooting itself. Besides that one issue, the drive was perfect and extremely fast in all situations. Updating the firmware (multiple times with each newly realeased firmware) did not seem to do anything at all. I also tried reinstalling Windows multiple times, using a different SATA port, updating IRST software and drivers, and even talking to it. Linux did not suffer from this fault. I am still using this drive, however, I do not use it as my C: drive. I installed Windows onto a mechanical HDD and then partitioned the SSD; 10GB used for ReadyBoost, 8GB as "swap", and the rest as a NTFS partitioned for virtual machines and a few programs. This results in a computer that is fast and stable.

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Re: Reliability, any digital storage medium can fail. The only real answer is to keep everything backed up. There are also a million stories out there about mechanical HDD failing. Realistically, with a 2TB HDD under $100, there's no reason not to. If you have a desktop, attach both drives, use the SSD as a boot drive, and just back up everything to the HDD regularly. If you have a laptop, just use an external HDD. Anyway, I'm in for one. It'll let me move my old Kingston V100 to my laptop.

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@racinreaver: There are no issues that I know of with hibernating a SSD. I hibernate/sleep my MacBook Pro daily and frequently. I'm using a SanDisk Extreme SSD though.

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@tgormtx: Correct, there are no issues with hibernating with an SSD, the reason people disable it in Windows is because the file that manages hibernation can become large and is written to often (from my understanding) It's not so much of a, cannot hibernate, as it is extending the life and space of the drives.

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Awesome deal. Was waiting to upgrade from my old SSD

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@micro1331: Make sense; thanks for the clarification. That would explain why I've never had an issue as well since I'm running Mac, not Windows.

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Wow... The first SSD I bought was the Crucial C300 the week they showed up for sale. Dropped around $400 for the 128GB model. I'm about due to make a new build, I'll probably look at putting 4 of these, or a similar model, in a RAID0! ^.^

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In for two. Been waiting for an SSD to drop really low!

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I have one of these running as my primary system drive on my Windows 7 PC, and until I upgraded to Firmware version 2.15 I was getting blue screens every 6-12 hours. I just checked their support site and they're now up to 2.22. My recommendation if you get one is to check the firmware it ships with and update it immediately before installing your OS.

I ended up needing to load ubuntu onto a flash drive and updating the firmware that way since they don't support updating it in windows when its your main system drive.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/ssd_tools/SandForce_Based/

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@tgormtx Mac vs PC shouldn't make any difference when it comes to hibernation. In either case you're writing everything currently in RAM to your Hard Disk, this way your computer can shut down, and still preserve it's previous state. Plus if you're running a SSD you don't really have a need for hibernation as your boot times aren't going to vary much between full shutdown and resuming from hibernation.

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@slowerlowerud: The point for me of hibernation is the ability to shut down my computer with a bunch of windows open (browsers, programs I'm currently working on, etc) and not have to remember exactly all the stuff you had opened.

I usually like it when I'm working across a couple of files or working on modifying a series of files and don't want to waste time looking for my place.

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$0.583 price per GB is the lowest i've EVER seen it!

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@wheaties466: Same. I paid almost $160 for this drive over the holidays. I don't regret it though, it's seriously fast and I haven't had any problems with it. If you want a SSD, jump on this. Awesome deal.

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@wynn28th: Just a warning, unless your RAID controller has specific support for TRIM, you will lose TRIM support by placing the drives in RAID 0. Supposedly you do not gain any significant speed boost from using RAID 0 with SSDs either, so I would suggest leaving them seperate from each other. I have two 60GB SSDs, one used as a boot drive, and one used for games and programs I want to load quickly. IMO I would leave them out of RAID and use one for boot, and one for programs.

Here's an older forum posting about what I am talking about, however I do not believe the TRIM/RAID issue has been fixed yet. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/268802-32-crucial-raid-trim-support

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If you are worried about reliability, the 2 yrs no hassle extended warranty is probably the best deal offsetting the rebate @ 14.99 above and beyond the 3 yr limited OCZ warranty. Plus, you can add the extended warranties after you make a checkout. Just go into your account options. It can be bought and applied to purchase up to 30 days after the initial sale if I'm not mistaken. (Newegg has a 30 day return policy - this just extends that to two years for 14.99)

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Also be sure to check compatibility with your system components. These are not as 'plug n play' as disc drives. They do require some setup experience. If you are a beginner, there will be some things you have to read up on before you get your OS loaded onto it. Take your time and it will be self rewarding. Firmware update is pretty much mandatory for best performance for this drive.

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@charvelguy: What you just said needs to be top comment. People really need to check system compatibility before jumping into an SSD. They require a bit more care than HDDs however, the end results are well worth the extra work. Your point about updating the firmware is crucial, a lot of times this can actually increase the compatibility the SSD has with other hardware.

For SSD Beginners: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

I posted this link in another post above, but hopefully this will stand out more for some of the beginners here.

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@tgormtx: There is no issue with putting a hibernation file on a SSD with Windows or any other OS. The only reason some people don't do it is because the hibernation files can be large and take up a lot of your SSD, especially on smaller drives. A hibernation file is the same size as your RAM, so 16GB of RAM = 16GB hibernation file. That's a sizable chunk of your SSD, especially if it's only a 60GB.

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These are probably so cheap because they have SandForce controllers, which are being phased out. SandForce can slow down a lot compared to other SSD controllers, based on the types of files being accessed. But this is so cheap that I don't think getting one of the better controllers is worth it, especially if you just want to use this as a boot drive

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Will this work on a macbook pro?

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Finally going to make the jump to SSD. I have been running RAID0 on my main PC for a while. Now I can dump those two drives into my server to bump it up to 8TB (4TB usable) and put a smaller 1TB drive and the SSD into my main box.

Nice find.

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@dows: I'm no Mac expert, however it should work in your MBP. From what I am seeing, they use sata drives, it all depends on whether you will truly get a speed boost, which depends on which model MBP you have, and what Sata connector is inside. Crucial's website is the best way to find that information out. Go there, plug in your information, then compare the specs of the drives it shoots back, to the specs of the drive in this post.

http://www.crucial.com/store/ssd.aspx
Under shop by manufactures in the link I provided, select Apple, then MacBook Pro, then whatever model it is you have.

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Use the code FB1MTHANKS5 to get $10 off $100 as well, though I think it closes at 4 pm or so.

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This is a fantastic upgrade for the money. I recently put this exact drive into a new gaming machine and it got a 7.9 Windows Experience for disk with a single drive and no RAID (and considering that single drive can perform at 70% of the entire bandwidth of the bus).

The Vertex line of drives is a step up form the Agility drives.

Specs that matter:

Sustained Sequential Read
up to 550 MB/s

Sustained Sequential Write
up to 500 MB/s

MTBF
2,000,000 hours

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@gobgava: Hi - I've had 3 OCZ Vertex drives that have been working flawlessly. Have a 60GB in my Dell Mini 9 running Snow Leopard and I haven't powered if off in a few months. No issues at all. Speed is outstanding. Just bought one more.

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I got the Vertex 2 and it JUST died last week after a year or so. I bought a Crucial. I probably would have gone with this instead just because it's about $30 cheaper. Even if it lasted 1 year it was a worthy investment to speed up my computer. All my important data was backed up so no sweat.

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If anyone needs a clean copy of Win7, any version, download from Digital River.

Here: http://www.mydigitallife.info/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-from-digital-river/comment-page-1/#comments

These are free downloads. The only thing you will need is the Key # which is on your machine during the fresh install.

Yes, these are 100% legal !

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The earlier models are known to have a problem with the controller. This was fixed in the new version the vertex 4 and also clocks at double the speed. Good luck buying this one.

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No one yet has mentioned that this is an MLC drive.

There are two main SSD storage technologies - Single Level Cell (SLC) and Multi Level Cell (MLC). The difference being that MLC subdivides the voltage access ranges - meaning that it fits twice as much data. So a drive could be 60GB with SLC, or 120GB with MLC.

The advantage to MLC is that it gives you twice the storage.

The DISADVANTAGES however are major - longer read and write speeds being the smallest concern. The major problem is that since MLC uses trickery to write 2 bites in the place of 1, it still uses the read/write cycle of 2 when it reads 1. Due to complications of page files, block sizes, and how flash memory handles writing/reading/erasing, MLC based SSDs give you a much smaller life cycle.

Im not very up to date with it, but last I knew your looking at a life cycle thats between 40-80% lower life cycle.

good article about SSD tech http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/31/engadget-primed-ssds-and-you/

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@racingfreak92: Do you know if there is there a way to force a MLC drive to behave like a SLC drive and increase its lifespan?

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@akshat7: Even with the advertised lifespan (based on rewrite cycles) a SSD should last 4 years for 95% of people (others have data applications that constantly rewrites like video editing - but even they will appreciate the speed for the expected life span) . I have SSDs in all my computers - I have a Vertex 2 240GB in my aluminum unibody 13 MB from 2008 and not a single cell has been retired yet.

Hours on - 4528 hours
Power cycle count - 5122 times
Lifetime writes - 8794 GB
Lifetime reads -7862 GB

I have other computers which use SSDs that have been used for even more writes and owns SSDs from most vendors (9 computers - some with multiple SSDs) - not a single one has given me a blue screen or had to be RMAed.

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@racingfreak92: Every single consumer SSD now is MLC as are most enterprise ones. The price difference is more than 200%. Yes MLC is better but you can get more that twice the capacity for MLC for cheaper than SLC.
Almost all manufacturors only make MLC now because it's performance is close and is much cheaper, for them and us.

@akshat7: MLC and SLC SSDs are physically different. Yes the performance difference exists but most people won't notice them (99.9999999%).

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@micro1331: OCZ drives use the Sandforce controller, which has problems with BSOD's a few months into use that cause data loss and need an RMA. Don't know if its been fixed yet, but it's the reason I put the extra money down for a Samsung SSD over an OCZ one.

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I've tried this link and the NewEgg site is selling it for $114.99 not the 69.99 as advertised on this site. What is the deal?

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This deal is a lie, it's 114.99, 104.99 after mail in rebate. Not 69.99.

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They were $79.99 (69.99 after rebate) last night when I put them in my cart. $114 this morning. Damn you Newegg.

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@mickster1245 failed to post this as a "Shell Shocker" deal.

It was to run from 12:01am to 1:00pm Monday !

Hence the real price today.