dealsgoogle android 2.0 pandigital 7” tablet/e-reader…

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Got one of these for my son for Christmas, great for movies, but not much else. I immediately rooted it and it has a few games available that are worth playing, but don't even try to compare it to a you-know-what.

I got it for a bit more on Amazon and it's paid for itself on long car rides and waiting at the docs office. Very sturdy. Has been dropped a few dozen times, one down ~ 5 stairs and still works as good as it did when I got it. My only complaint is that it doesn't have a home button.

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For what it's worth, the current copy of Consumer Reports (electronics) gave some very low marks for the Pandigital ereaders in terms of responsiveness, clarity, etc. That was across the board for their products. The most current, top-shelf model only cracked the top 15. Having read several reviews last year when I was looking for an ereader, poor material quality was a recurring theme; most said the device felt "flimsy." Still, you get what you pay for and this would perhaps serve as a good "throw away" device for travel or other situations where the possibility of loss or theft is a concern. If that isn't the situation, but you are still working on a tight budget, I would probably recommend spending the extra $30 bucks and getting the Nova model. Another area of concern: I haven't seen any info anywhere on upgrading Android from Froyo to Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich.

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$50 for a 7" screen and the ability to watch movies and check email is a deal... Think about what you're actually getting for $50, then think back about 8 or 10 years and picture your reaction to this device at $50.

Of course it's not a kindle fire or iPad; I've played with one of these, and it's worth $50.

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Can't seem to find any info on limits to how much you can expand the memory with an SD card with.

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@kamikazeken: Yes but it's not 8 or 10 years ago. Technology advances pretty quickly. The $300 budget laptop you'll find in stores today will easily outperform the $2000 high-end laptop purchased a decade ago.

That being said, for $50 this still seems like a decent deal.

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I wish companies would stop referring to storage space as "memory." Memory is RAM you use to RUN things like the OS or apps. I read this and thought it had 1GB of RAM and that it probably had more than 1GB of internal storage.

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@offensivebias: Agreed, MEMORY is not storage! My thought is this advertisement is intentionally misleading, because it does not list the actual available memory, which I believe is 512?

What is funny is I still glazed over it initially because I was like, "oh not dual core? worthless."

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Question: Would I be able to download apps from the Google Play market?

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Good info about pandigital tablets :
http://www.slatedroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Pandigital_Novel

It says in the ad it has stereo speakers…. If that is the case then it is the newer black one, which is the same as the original white version. Very hackable, and there are custom rome for it that make it decently usable.
I still use mine to surf, read books, play games etc… Google marketplace works fine once modified.

The original black unit was a dog, running 1.5 android. I just finished up rooting and upgrading one for a friend, and won't do it again. Pain in the ass, slow (makes my white one look fast!!) just an overall dog.

For $50, if this unit is a black colored "white" unit its a decent deal if you are looking for a cheap hackable or give it to the kids to abuse tablet.

BTW the white one will take a 64GB sd card!!

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A year ago Endgadget.com reviewed this device and had nothing good to say about it. At the time it was selling new for $60 at Kohl's.

Few buyers will hack or root the unit. So this is definitively a "Leave-It-Alone" bad idea. You are better of with $50 in your pocket than with a soon to be brick.

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Got one of these a few months back, and it hasn't seen much action. The screen's response is pretty bad compared to most tablets out there, and the battery life is horrible. Got it through one of the deal sites like Ben's Outlet or 1Sale, but I don't remember which one, and wanted a refund because the battery life is about 1 hr. Thought it was defective, tried contacting customer service, no response no matter how many times I tried to email within the return/exchange period.

Anyway, for the trouble I went through, I guess it was an expensive brick and a hard lesson learned. You're definitely better off with the $50 in your own pocket that will eventually contribute toward something hopefully a lot better than this piece of junk.

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Got a White back when Kohl's had them for $60. The wife wanted an ereader and I wanted to make sure it would read epub format. She's happy and I'm happy. The SD card will take up to a 32G.

BTW: If this Black is truly like the White you can slide the back off and swap out the internal 1G for whatever size you want, it's just a microSD card. Drop 4G in it and you've got room for too many epubs.

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I have two of these. The WPDN I got for $30 and love it after modding the device with a simple copy of a file to the external SD card. The second is this model that i use, as is, and enjoy just as much. i got this one for $45. This is a great deal. Don't listen to anyone. Everyone expects every tablet to be some amazing device. If you want a book reader, to be able to play simple games, surf the net then this will do. Just don't expect some blazing fast tablet.
I have a 32gb SD card in both...

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@offensivebias: How does the term "memory" translate to RAM for you? Memory is a vague term in the field of technology. There is RAM. But then you also have ROM and data storage memory as well. The term memory alone does not imply that it is volatile or non-volatile nor does it give any clues to the specific type of memory. Your assumption that when anyone says "memory" they are talking about RAM is purely a bad line of thinking. It is not misleading to call memory, memory. It is your job to seek out details about how much RAM/storage the device has if you're interested in purchasing. Furthermore, at this price point I could tell you from a mile away that this thing doesn't have 1GB RAM. I mean come on. Does the Nook Color, Nook Tablet (8GB), or Kindle Fire have 1GB RAM? No. They don't. And these are ~$170-$200 devices. Be realistic, and do your homework.

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From the perspective of somebody who works at a library and deals with a lot of tablets/ereaders, I can tell you this thing is a piece of garbage. If you want something cheap to check email and watch movies then MAYBE it's a good idea. The response time on the touchscreen if awful. You have to press pretty hard to get a response. The display is blurry. Even with hacking the thing and boosting the storage size you are still dealing with an inferior piece of hardware.

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Got two at Kohls for around $60 each. It's like using a computer you bought 8 years ago, it's slow but will play video and a few games. Our toddler loves it with "Toddler Lock" and watching Elmo videos on youtube.

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More than likely your going to become frustrated with it after a week or two and disappointed that you spent the money.

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I realize this isn't a tablet that I would want to use on a daily basis, but is it good enough for my 4 year old to play toddler games and angry birds on? We bought her a cheap chinese knock off for Christmas that I paid $90 for and she decided it was dirty and washed it in the sink. She knows now not to wash them. I am assuming this one doesn't have a camera though and she loves taking pictures with hers.

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I decided to buy one of these, thanks to an error in the websites checkout process I have been charged 10 times!!! Ive tried emailing them 4 times, sending messages to their facebook profile and even twitter. They have no phone number or any other contact information that I can find, I'm so beyond furious I'm about to start making my way across Brooklyn to where google maps says is their location. I really didnt want to spend memorial day weekend in jail, but it looks like its going to come to that.

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There are tips and tricks and headaches of all kinds, in every product line. I'll take the headache (not that I'll get the headache, lol) because I'm going to:

1) see if a tablet is something I'm really going to use - this is a very affordable way to find out.
2) I'm going to learn how to root this and take that knowledge to other devices
3) Have fun learning
4) give it to a child or tween if it doesn't work well enough for me.

It's all in how you look at it, and $1.00 would be a really great deal. $50.00 works for me too.

Frankly, I'm tired of looking and wondering if I want/need/can put good use to one of these, but a better version, or, as you said, a legit cheap tablet (???). So now my problem is solved.

Glass 1/2 full :)

@mayberry1976: Perfect for your little one, IMHO.

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@silentg: For example: go to Newegg and go to their "Memory" section. The only storage devices listed there are flash drives, which I suspect are there because some systems can use flash drives as RAM swap space to cut back on disk access. As a convention in the field of technology, the term memory is used to refer to RAM. It's only a vague term outside of technology.

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@offensivebias: Is there documentation supporting your statement of this convention? The mere fact that an electronics store decided to catagorize in this way doesn't mean that memory = RAM. Go to the technology section of this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_(disambiguation)

You'll see that there are lots of different types of memory. I don't believe trying narrow the definition of "memory" to mean RAM is accurate in any measure.

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Again... I use mine every day. I watch a movie or listen to music at work. I use it to read books at night in bed (right now it's fire & Ice). I use it on the side when playing video games to look up hard to beat areas. It does not play games well but I have a version of Angry birds that runs perfect along with a bunch of other cheapo games (that I also enjoy). Everyone saying it's bad is comparing it to another ereader/tablet that costs at least $100 more. Go ahead. Get your kindle fire. I'll be doing the same thing as you, a little slower, except three people in my house will instead of 1.
This is also good for anyone interested in doing some messing around with rooting and trying different android software versions. It hurts a lost less if you brick a $30 device...

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I will give you a hint that will make it better for you. You can open the tablet and remove the 1 gig sd card and replace it with an 8 or 16 gig card. Then run the software update and Voila!!. My wife taught with these for 1 year and I updated the internal memory to 8 gigs on all of them.

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Anyone know if you can get access to the market on these? And what version of android they're on & if it's upgradable? I looked on the other site about hacking these, but not sure if this is the same as the white one & if it'll be worth it

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hmmm... should i get one, or not?
i'm on the fenst...

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@stheophanous: You CAN install Amazon market, which has a LOT of good apps. I've had mine for almost a year and am very glad I got it. It is absolutely worth $50.00. It won't run Netflix, but you can run movies in mpg4 format. You can burn dvd's and watch entire movies. It is just fine as an e-reader.

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I use mine for cooking....no, I don't microwave it. I keep recipes on it and use it in the kitchen. (As well as the other stuff like internet and e-books.) I figure if it did get damaged when my pressure cooker explodes (I didn't say I was a good cook) or whatever, it is a much smaller loss than an IPad or laptop.

Pandigital is NOT Apple or Samsung....but it is adequate quality. They have been a major name with digital picture frames for years. The aren't Coby, for example. (Not to put down the KYROS.)

A GOOD BUY for $50.00.

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@cplaw: I have the HP touchpad that I really like, dual booting webos & ICS is nice, but my little brother likes it (mostly plays angry birds, other kid stuff, haha) so this would be nice for reading books and stuff like that. Amazon app store has a lot of nice stuff, looks like i'm in for one. Thanks!

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While I don't want to play devil's advocate here, @silentg is right on the money. "Memory" is a broad term in the tech industry and using it as to refer to only one type of "memory" is really irksome to geeks all over. It's just one of those things were knowing more occasionally makes things more confusing. So please, next time a geek asks "What KIND of memory?" politely refer him/her to the owner's manual and let him/her sort things out him/herself.

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Is this good enough for a 7 year old to watch netflix on and play angry birds? Thank you

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@onae: Just an observation, but when Apple refers to any type of "GB" with their iDevices, they just say "Storage". Just look at the tech spec comparison of iPads on Apple's website. Even Amazon refers to the Kindle Fire with 8GB of "Storage" on the product page.

If the major players in digital e-reader devices and tablet computing use a number "X" with "GB", they specifically call out that it's for Storage in their tech specs. When it's in a title, they seem to just leave the Storage text completely out (i.e. Device 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB) and definitely do not use the term "Memory" when referring to Storage.

At the end of the day, this is boiling down to semantics with people having various opinions of what is correct. IMO, the right call should have been to leave out the term "Memory" altogether and summarize the details on the product / sale page.

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@phantomcanes: Sooooo.... you're asking if this ia good cheap babysitter?

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@offensivebias: Its called flash memory. Memory comes in many different types. RAM is random access memory which stores "things" while the computer is operating. Once you shut it down, those "things" get wiped from RAM.
These tablets use flash memory which the "things" you may store on it, stay even if you shut the device off, or even pull the battery. They cant say there is a hard drive in it, because that is FALSE. A hard drive is a device with spinning platters and read/write heads. (hence why they don't call an SSD a hard drive) Now I am sure someone is going to tell me I am wrong here, but I am just putting all of this in "simple, easy to read" terms. I could go into more detail but I do not feel like writing a book. As an IT professional, I learned about the different types of memory when I first started going to school. I agree It can be confusing, but by standards, they are using the right terms. Maybe they should say instead "1GB Flash Media"...More confusing!

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@phantomcanes: Will not do netflix. Angry Birds is kinda slow. Some other games work fine. Mostly for e books, internet and email. Pandora works well.
Plays media files fine. Plays amazon mp3s. Mp4 videos.

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@cplaw: Aughhh! I wanted to watch netflix! Badword, badword, badword....

Bought one last night. Oh well, I'll watch movies instead, I guess.

Badword again. I could have sworn this was addressed earlier....

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@nickmcmahon: I have a bachelor's degree in computer science and am very, very familiar with precisely what RAM and hard drives are and how they work. So I'm definitely not in need of "simple, easy to read terms." My point is simply that when the word "memory" is used on its own in reference to computer hardware, it typically refers to volatile storage used to execute programs. You're right that the type of hardware this device uses for its non-volatile storage is called flash memory, and I'm aware that the term "memory" has broader usage in computers. But that's not what I'm talking about.

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@nickmcmahon: so whats wrong with calling it storage then like pretty much any other manufacturer/distributor? nobody asked you to write a book.....

Also, it doesn't say the words Flash Memory. If did it might make more sense, like they are trying to let the consumer know in a roundabout way that it is possible to upgrade it.

It says internal memory, which generally(and I know its debateable) does not refer to rom or flash memory

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OMG this thing CRAWLS. Downloaded one song and it plays slowwwwww. I'm frustrated, this is not the experience I was looking for. I'll look into "rooting" it and see what happens. I'm also going to try an SD card but i can't see that that will speed up the applications.