dealshp p6-2143w amd a-6 8gb 1 tb desktop (refurbished…

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Meh....
Integrated Graphics
Limited to 2 Slots of Ram (8GB)
300W Power Supply

This would be good for surfing the web. Not worth converting to a gamer "in my opinion."

$279 here (only 1 in stock):
http://www.cedarpc.com/product/28310/HP-Pavilion-p6-2143w--28310/

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This other moofi deal looks better: http://moofi.woot.com/offers/hp-p6-2378-quad-core-desktop
Faster processor, ram is expandable and only $20 more.

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The other one also has USB 3, this one is only USB 2.

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@poster405: plus USB 3 on that one vs. USB 2 on this one.

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Hey, there's an echo in here!

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Specs say the minicard slot is occupied, but HP has only used this slot for a wireless card(on all models I've seen up to now). Since this model doesn't have a wireless card, I can't see the minicard slot being used. The specs on HP's site confirms this model doesn't have wireless. I assume the specs for the minicard should read available.