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Why the down votes, just curious?

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So this being a beginners kit am I any less likely to cut my jugular?

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@gilfilent: I haven't seen any places do any recent or re-reviews of the GB Buckingham & Sons (VSR's house brand), but Luke (VSR Dude) had a rough start, which included my own straight of this type that I purchased from him.

Basically originally VSR was shipping non-shave ready house brand blades, they had some serious quality control issues, and when they did start shipping shave-ready blades they had been honing them using a kitchen knife sharpener. Supposedly that is all worked out now, but I wouldn't know.

More recent reviews here anyway have been positive, and pretty much if you order this, and you're not happy Luke has always been more than accommodating about replacements and refunds.

The truth is this, if you're new to straight razor shaving you're more than likely going to destroy both your strop, and the edge of your first razor, Luke now offers free honing/sharpening for life, and better you hose up a $20 razor instead of a $100+ one.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itKj-FVZs1Y

Recent shave attempt using one of the base GBB&S Pakkawood blades uploaded in February. So, maybe it is still a brand to be avoided.

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@funkthulhu: Why start with a DE? Straights really aren't that hard to use, and I don't see how a DE would get you ready for it.

I went from a cartridge to a straight razor a few months ago and have only cut myself twice, never badly. Once was because I got cocky and was talking on the phone while I shaved, the other time I was just being plain dumb and wiped the soap/hair off onto a piece of toilette paper I was holding (it'll go right through :p)

In general people think straight razors are much more dangerous than they actually are. You wana pay attention while you're using one, but it's pretty hard to cut yourself badly.

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yeah, i'm pretty weary about what goes on my face. I've only had a barber use a straight blade on my face. Normally I have some lumberjack beard though.

I know barbers and my wife's best friend is a stylist, their scissors are between $1500-5000, I imagine a real straight blade isn't 50 bucks.

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@gilfilent: $50 will get you a good used yet reconditioned straight razor.

$100 will get you a very good new straight razor.

Above $100 the differences aren't quite as noticable. VSR does actually sell DOVO razors, and they're very nice razors at that.

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@xavoc: thanks for the info, I'm by no means a aficionado of the straight blade.

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@funkthulhu: Actually with all knives it's easier to cut yourself with a dull blade than a sharp one because it takes more force to cut and therefore you're more careless.

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Luke sent me one of these sets to test (sorry Luke, I haven't had time to post a video yet).
To be honest I think it is a good deal, and would make a nice gift for a family members.

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I'm very surprised, as a barber, there is no hone included. Many people have the misconception that a leather strop (yes I spelled it right) sharpens the blade. If the razor is made of good steel, it will hold an edge if properly sharpened. I'm tempted to order just for curiosity.

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I've had a change of heart, and I now fully endorse GB Buckingham products. If Woot wants to be associated with companies like this, who am I to stop them?

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@erunyon: All blades need periodic stropping to maintain their edge. Especially straight razors. Stropping is what keeps the edge sharp so that you are not constantly re-honing. If you can't understand the concept or need for it then you must be a really poorly trained barber.

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@urocyon: I will be honest with you, I have not shaved with this product.
1. We have everything on display in a glass door cabinet in our bathroom, and it looks cool. That is why this would be a great gift.
2. My wife is an RN, but became a cosmetologist/barber (same license in my State) to pay for her way through school. She tried it out on a few balloons without a problem.
3. This company appears to have great customer service. If a person needs to "learn" how to shave, they will provide the information.
4. If you are not happy with the product, they will "make it right."

I am not advertizing, just saying my experience.

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As always, folks downvote these str8 razor deals. Why? Herd mentality, I think.

Blades need stropping after every use. Honing, then, should be infrequent. Maybe every 6 months if the steel is good quality and the razor is sharp to begin with.

I don't have any experience with this company's products, but the VdH soap is very good (I used it this morning, in fact). And lifetime honing (assuming the company is around) is an excellent deal. An inexpensive razor and strop are a good way to get started since, as someone mentioned above, you're almost certain to ding the edge or nick the strop starting out.

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A straight razor is no different from a kitchen knife of any blade. Though with the straight razor it doesn't get dull, the edge does get out of alignment and you use the strop to bring it back in line. As an analogy, the honing rod brings the kitchen knife edge back in alignment. The reason the kitchen knife needs the occasional sharpening and the straight razor doesn't is because the kitchen knife cuts things tougher than hair.

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I find it hard to believe that 68 people had a bad experience with this company and came back to Woot to complain about it.

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@dcobranchi: http://www.gbbuckinghamandson.com has a collection of links to reviews and issues w/ these blades.

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@pedistrarian: Actually it's easier to cut yourself with a dull blade not because of carelessness but because the blade does not cut what you want it to and you end up exerting pressure and the blade will eventually punch through the "sticking point" and you end up with a dull blade now cutting where you don't want it to because you've used excess force and it's following its own track on the path of least resistance. Like how cutting an onion with a sharp blade is super easy but then you use a dull blade and while it will cut, the blade will go where it likes and not where you want it to.

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@dcobranchi: Sorry you're a little late to read all the negative posts that were deleted earlier.

Plain and simple, the quality of this particular blade is garbage.

And no, not every razor deal gets downvoted into oblivion. Some of them had 100's of positive votes in the past (when they posted quality merchandise)

Here is a sponsored razor deal that was posted a couple months ago that had +136 votes: http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/6b72cf15-713d-4063-a2d7-57028887d2dc/50-off-german-made-merkur-safety-razor-shaving-set-with-practice-straight-razor#80

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@dcobranchi: As devexity pointed out, some of the deals posted by this vendor are actually deals. Buying something that works poorly, if it even arrives in proper condition to use (Repeated complaint seen.), let alone holds an edge (Repeated complaint seen.), is not a deal.

Some people will down vote it because they don't do simple math. A straight razor/DE kit that gets them started, will last them a lifetime, and will give a superior shave to disposables and electrics requires a certain level of up-front investment. Those people ALWAYS downvote these deals.

However after that, the price drops rapidly compared to say, Plain-Old Mach3 blades that are $50 for 24 cartridges. I can buy 50 DE blades for $22 from Amazon. The straight razor simply needs proper stropping (and an occasional re-hone if you hose it up) to keep in working order. With proper care, both will outlast your lifetime.

It is Luke's house brand (featured in this deal), that people have issues with.

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@gilfilent: No problem, and no worries.

It was a dying art form that is coming back in the age of expensive disposable cartridges. I picked it up because my skin really just is that damn sensitive, and shaving my neck was leaving me with nasty red welts no matter what I did.

But, I can spend $25-75 on a DE razor and $22 for 50 blades going forward. After about a year and a half I am saving money too. My favorite DE to use actually came from this vendor, free for me to review and keep. I love it.

I also love my straight razors, and tend to switch back and forth between it and my DE.

Mostly I just like not looking like a total 360 degree redneck. :)