dealspanasonic 42" plasma hdtv for $399.99

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womp womp...you'll never be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 42" TV....oh wait, you will, because 720p will be much cheaper.

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Is this a reputable site? I know some friends who still have CRT TV's so a 720 plasma would be an enormous upgrade. (if it weren't plasma I'd pick it up for the party room)

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Sure, its not 1080p, and I'd never purchase a 720p, but a 42" Plasma TV for $399.99 is an okay deal even if its 720p. However, thats not reading the reviews or knowing the performance of this particular TV model.

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@spikedknight: hhgreg is a legitimate business. They replaced the circuit city that closed down in my area.

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I am watching this TV as we speak. It's awesome. The color is amazing, the HD is crystal. This is a few hundred less that we paid for ours about a year ago.

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@dazoneranger: I agree. I think it's really neat how they keep making the difference between 720p and 1080p more and more negligible. First I'm told that you can only notice the difference between them on a 32"+ set, then I hear 40"+ and now 43"+? Hopefully by the end of this year you won't be able to tell the difference even on a 55" screen!

I have to wonder though, how are they doing this? The science behind it makes no sense to me, but then again, I'm no scientist. Anyways, good deal.

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I own a 720p plasma and I love it...upconverted media (ps3, blu-ray) plays as 1080i on it, too... And the Viera line is known for giving people some of the best bang for the buck out of any brand of HDTVs.. The only thing that would give me pause might be the refresh rate.

Still a pretty decent deal though!

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Panasonic makes the best plasma's on the market. But If worried about plasma, only $100 more will get you a 40" Sharp Aquos 1080P 4ms Response time 120hz refresh rate, also a great tv! http://www.buy.com/retail/Product.asp?sku=215866403

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@katanaman444: if you wear glasses for anything more than 10 feet away, yeah, you cant tell the difference between the two at X feet away.

Go to a big-name store where they have some 720s (very few) and compare.

Plasma WILL give you blacker blacks. I have a DLP 61" (from woot) and it's awesome 720ness.

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My dad has this exact model also purchased from HH Gregg. It's a great TV and a very good store.

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I bought this same TV from Best Buy last week for the same price. Great colors and impressive black levels compared to my LCD. In fact, the TV in on behind me as I'm typing. It has a very reflective screen so placement is important. The speakers are in back so you won't want to place this inside an entertainment center. For $399 its a steal and I'm very happy with it.

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@ckenaan: Oh man thank you!! I have been looking every where for a decent tv that is 120hz and lower than 8ms response time, didint even have to be 1080p so thats a plus too. I think I shall buy this!

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have the lg version of this along with another plasma 1080 42 in.tough to see much differance. if your putting this in a cabnet you might take a look at the lg as its the the smallest width set that i could find out there.Its size let me go up 42 in instead of 40 for my setup

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I have this TV, and it is awesome.

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This is the #1 Selling TV in the country for 2010. In 42" screen size, its physically impossible to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless you're closer than 5ft. Plasmas last 4 times longer than LCD/LED - always have and always will - there's no light source that dims. Any of you that are knocking on plasma technology should really re-think your position - its the fastest (less than 1ms response time), longest lasting (Panasonic sets are rated for 100,000 hours until half life - LCD/LED is maximum of 60,000), better viewing angles (because there is no light source the angle at which you sit doesn't matter), stronger screens (important if you have kids), I can go on and on. Look at the reviews on this set too - in Consumer Reports Current Issue Panasonic owns every top rating - including this one in sets 46" and smaller.

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@larrym20: I have a plasma and I can tell you right now it has a response time of 8-9ms. I sometimes go back to my 32 CRT just becuase how much of a difference there is. CRT's are the true winner when it comes to response times.

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@invisibleogre: No it doesn't. Can't play 1080i on 720p. Can't be done (unless you are just missing 33% of the picture). That signal is getting down-converted to 720p.

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@japple650: I'm pretty sure the refresh on this model is 60hz, not 120.

Still a great TV, but just sayin'.

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I own a previous generation of this model (TH-42PX75U) and have owned it for over three years. I love the tv and everyone comments on the great picture. If you look here: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P42C2-42-Inch-720p-Plasma/dp/tech-data/B003924U7A/ref=de_a_smtd you'll see that the tv has a 600Hz refresh rate, so I'm not sure where you're finding 60Hz. And LCDs cannot contend with that. This thing will throw out a lot of heat, but that is the ONLY hit on it, IMHO. Enjoy a great picture for about 1/3 of the price I paid. And I'm still extremely happy with it.

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Stupid 720P Trolls. If the TV isn't 4K, than it isn't worth it, right? This TV looks great regardless that a higher res might look better.

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@dazoneranger: You will really notice the difference if you try to hook up a computer to it. More and more people do that these days with media pcs. The resolution of 720p is nowhere close to 1080p.

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I can tell the difference between 720 and 1080. Of course that's probably because I run everything through computers and text is the most telltale sign of resolution.

As for the plasma itself, I know Panasonic has been having complaints brought against it for the black levels brightening to grays very rapidly. I would read reviews before plunging.

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Response times...true darks..720p vs 1080p. There are still some basic questions that are not being answered..especially when they relate to 'real world' experience. So...here goes...

Bedroom - Sony 32" Bravia LCD 720p
Den - 55" Sony 55" Bravvia LED-LCD 1080p
Boys Den - 50" Samsung DLP 1080p

All three have Direct TV with HD/DVR's. The two Den TV's are our main gaming TV's with XBOX and PS3's on them.

First of all...YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE. I don't know who started this..but if you have content (in 1080) and compare it to the SAME content in 720..there is a notable difference. However..as you would assume, 720p is 720p on all of them. No difference (slight due to age/manufacturer). Which kind of makes the "same-same" statement true...I guess. C'mon..use your noggin's on this stuff guys..

Most 'experts' at Best Buy (wait..ok..laughing fit over) use the "it's the same" argument for TV's, Sorround Sound, toasters and ovens..So YMMV..GREATLY...

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@invisibleogre: Was refering to another tv a wooter had posted. If you went back and looked at who I was talking to you would see that. just saying

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@larrym20:
I understand how Plasma is better than LCD (not as much as it used to be but still better in a couple of areas).
There are two issues that made LCD my choice..

1. Screen Burn : Still can happen..yes, some come with 'automatic screen manipulation'..but it's still an issue. Ever put your cable or sat box on pause and forgot about it? The logo can put a nice diamond on it as it meanders around for hours.

2. Heat and Power : Go look at the power consumption and heat of a Plasma vs. LED-LCD...Jinkies Scooby!!!!

Plus, LCD is better in brightly lit rooms...I happen to have 2 REALLY LARGE windows in my den that stream sunlight, during these times the plasma could suffer some washout.

Cheers!
Jay

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@jraxter: Burn in is not an issue on plasmas. It hasn't been for a long time. I really wish people would stop saying it is. Are you worried about burning in your old tube TV or your LCD set? No? Good, because modern plasmas have about the same risk for burn-in. Please note that image retention is not burn-in, and even image retention goes away quickly. Secondly, plasmas do use up more power yes, but given the average cost per kWh of electricity, it comes out to like $20 extra per year. Heat? Really? Are you planning on using this is an oven or something? Your only valid complaint really is the fact that plasmas aren't good for bright rooms.

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@japple650 - I work for Panasonic as a trainer - maybe I should have stated that earlier, so believe me I know a lot more about this product than anyone else posting on here. Every plasma on the market today has a response time of 1ms or faster - its part of the technology.

The fastest LCD/LED response times on the market today in TVs is around 4ms/5ms - some LCD computer monitors are 2ms due to their size (being smaller).

@jraxter - some plasma televisions run hot/warm - in vivid mode yes. Take the TV out of the vivid mode and its very energy friendly and cooler. The thought that Plasmas cost a ton to operate is also false - a 42" Plasma may cost about $33 - $40/year to operate if you watch 8 hours a day (depending on the brand) - a 40" LCD/LED may run about $22 - $40/year to operate based on brand and feature set as well - but you're going to spend a lot more for it.

CNET.com top TV pretty much every year is a plasma. Same for HTMAG, HDGURU, S&V, BBY.com, etc.

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And to continue - burn in only occurs from user abuse. Nothing you normally do with your TV will "burn in" on the set. Now, if you left a static image on your screen for a few days it will leave "retention", this however will go away after normal watching - but who leaves something on their screen for days?

1st page of every owners manual for LCD/LED/DLP/Plasma/CRT/Projector/etc all say don't say leave static images on screen for this reason.

Burn in is permanent - retention is not.

Everyone should feel safe and confident buying any display technology, and know that you're going to get a lot more for the money out of plasma than any other technology.

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I have a 42" Plasma @ 720p. It is noticeable in some rare occasions but generally you won't tell a difference. Plus mine is 5 years old. I'd say live with it being 720p, definitely worth the price.

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Got one of these today...thanks to the poster! I have had a 42"
720p plasma for several years and have been very pleased with it.
Thanks for the coupon...the manager told me that this price is $50
less than his store paid for the tv. Are they cutting their losses
after the Super Bowl?

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The refresh rate on this is guaranteed to blow away any LCD currently on the market. It's a plasma!

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@aoviss: Umm...I was joking. I'm surprised that there's anyone who couldn't tell. The whole "You can't notice the difference between 720p and 1080p on an x inch screen" thing is a dumb myth that gets told differently from person to person. I have a 28" monitor whose resolution is 1920x1200. I sit about 5 feet from it (I've measured) and I can notice aliasing in games, so obviously that means that I can appreciate it's resolution to the fullest extent, so to speak. I've seen a 32" 720p TV also (was also sitting about 5 feet away), and I can definitely notice the difference in detail between it and my monitor.

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@katanaman444: Games are a bit different. I'm assuming you mean computer games here, which get rendered at whatever resolution you set them to. When your source is 720p, which most sources are these days, you aren't going to notice a difference between a 720p set and a 1080p set displaying that same source, because they're both displaying in 720p. I think this is where a lot of the misconception about 720p vs 1080p comes in.

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Just saw on their Facebook page that this deal ends at midnight tonight.

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@stryker4526: That's true, I hadn't considered that. I assumed we were all assuming the best case scenario-that the source matched the native resolution of the set in question. If the source is 720p, it's actually better to have a 720p set for image quality since the image will get upscaled on a 1080i/p set which hurts image quality.

That's not all that relevant though, since we were talking about what size of display is needed to notice the difference between 720p and 1080p. Obviously if the source is 720p, this issue is irrelevant since there won't be a difference in picture quality no matter what size the display is.

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HH Gregg is regional. I buy from them a lot because they have (some of them) great scratch n dent and open box deals in the store. I bought my 65 inch TCP52S2 from them for 1300 open box (had a 20% coupon).

As for "I'll pass, not 1080p"...enjoy spending money on a 42 inch with it that you'll almost never use.

I have this particular TV. Wonderful.

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@jraxter: At 55 inches? Possibly. At 32? LMAO @ that. No, no you can't.

You take a 42 inch 1080p Panny and a 720p Panny and put content on them, you can't tell. Not from the 10 foot sitting range.

I have one of each. It's not noticable. 50 inches? Maybe. 65? Sure, but you aren't going to find too many TV's that large anymore that aren't 1080p (even Projections). Hooking up Computers? Sure, but you're looking at different content at that point.

The fact that the % of what you actually see/watch in 1080p (unless all you do is watch blu ray or play select video games) is almost nill....

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@jraxter: They've made strides on plasma's for reflection. My basement has no windows, so no issues there, but my living room is a fish tank. Windows everywhere. No problems with my plasma.

Screen Burn in: I play NCAA 2011 and DCUO all the time. Both with stationary crap on the screen. For hours. No problem.

Slight image retention right away? Sure. Change the channel, clears up in 2-3 minutes.

You can permanently damage LCD's as well.

It's more personal preference. When LCD's finally (if ever) catch up with Plasma's on the smoothness of refresh rates, I'll probably look that way.

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@stuffhog: I'm guessing the manager lied to you.

If you go into the store, there is a number and lettering system on each TV they sell. It actually shows the cost they have into the TV (or profit rather) if they sell it for the price listed.

I doubt very seriously (especially with this TCP42C2 model) they are selling these at a loss.

I have a friend who works for panasonic and his "friends and family" deal on this TV over the holidays was 325. That's when I picked up this particular model.

I'm guessing the cost to HH Gregg on this was in that range. I haven't looked because I don't go into my store that often. When I do, I normally don't look at new stuff anyways.

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Bungi,

I think you are probably right, of course..but the sets
in the store were marked $539...and no in-store sale price
was obvious. With HH, you have to ask, often. He had about
a dozen of these sitting in the boxes in the middle aisle..so
I am sure he was glad to get rid of one. I am still happy with
it.