dealsshave like a man - badger hair shaving brush…

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@katanaryda: All brushes are not created equal. Boar hair vs Badger hair makes a big difference. Most wet shavers will agree that boar hair is inferior to badger.

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@mangledmess: I have to respectfully disagree with your assesment of best badger hair.

Best Badger is a nice middle of the road quality of badger hair. Its not Silvertip but is a good quality hair that is nice to the touch and has good water holding ability.

For those that are not familiar with the different grades of badger brushes, here is a good summary.
http://www.shaving101.com/index.php/education/shaving-brush-basics/105-understanding-hair-grades-of-badger-brushes.html

Yes this brush is made in China, but that does not make it junk. Browse around shaving forums like Badger and Blade and you will see Frank Shaving brushes are really well regarded and are considered by many to be an outstanding value.

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@piratejones: I'll share three pieces of advice.

1. When you switch to a safety razor the amount of pressure used is much less than what you need for a multi-blade cartridge razor. Take your time and use a light touch.

2. Everyone's face is different. What works best for one person may not work best for you. Because of this, you will see wildly variying opinions on blades, brushes, razors, creams, etc. You will only know what is best for you with a little trial and error.

Want to try a new shaving cream? Get a small size first. If you like it, get the jumbo-economy size when you run out. Don't buy a bulk pack of blades until you've actually tried them. Pick up a few individual packs of different kinds (or a variety pack) and find what you like. Once you find a blade that works for you, then its time to buy a 100 blade pack.

3. Don't be afraid to ask. Wet shavers (myself included) tend to get a little passionate about it. We love talk shaving, so questions are always welcome.

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I agree that all brushes are not created equal but it comes down to personal preference. For example. rougher brushes are either scratchy or help "scrub" (i.e. exfoliate) your face depending on your preference. But there is agreement that they don't hold water nearly as well as the softer brushes do, which helps with creating lather. Rougher brushes tend to be for beginners, since they're cheaper, and for those that lather with soap. The softer brushes tend to be used for creams and are known for making a really rich lather. To makes things a little more confusing, there isn't much of a standard to how you identify badger hair. One company's super badger is another company's silvertip.

Here's the types of hair from roughest to smoothest (and most expensive):
Boar, pure badger, best badger, super badger, silvertip badger.

I don't know much about Frank Shaving but they seem to have a good rep. I'm in for one.

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@henryhargrove: The blades I'm including are Lord Platinum, not Lord Stainless. There's a signifigant difference between the two. (I don't carry Lord Stainless)

I've used a Tweezerman brush for the last few years. It is a fine inexpensive brush and I never understood why anyone would pay more that $10 for a brush. When I got these in I decided to keep one for myself and give it a try. The difference was amazing. I had no idea what I had been missing out on all this time. The tweezerman is now my 'spare' brush.

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I wanted to add that this deal is $1 cheaper than normal and they throw in a 5 pack of double edge blades (worth $1.25, if you can use them). Seems like a good brush to try but its not a deal you need to jump on as quickly as possible either.

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After seeing this post and many others, I feel it's time to throw my face into the safety razor ring. The past year with my Gillette Proglide has been expensive and painful.

Do any of you experienced users have suggestions or tips for someone like me? I have nothing right now but will probably buy this unless someone can suggest something better (by the comments it seems this will be a great deal.)

<3

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Buy a tube of "CREMO" shave Cream $9.50 , with a shaving brush, and a pea sized amount on the brush it whips up to a nice lather. Better than all the creams, gels, soaps I have used. Using the same tube for almost a year now.

http://www.amazon.com/Cremo-Cream-Shave-177/dp/B001KYVZPY

I use a Tweezerman Brush, and I have used others.

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@shavelikeaman: I'll second all of this, especially the part about the variety pack.

One more point I'd add: do two passes: With the grain and then against the grain. I'm consistently amazed at how close the shave is.

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wetshaving is awesome but this is NOT a good deal, get an Omega boar hair brush for around $15 and 100 Derby blades for $7.5o on Amazon

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I just used some Lord stainless and they are terrible. They were 99c for a 5 pack, and most blades of varying quality for varying people range $1 to $4.

If you are just starting out, $21 is a lot for a beginner brush and this specific brush doesn't have an amazing reputation. I have a cheapo tweezerman and a cheapo omega and they are both decent but different.

I do recommend getting into wet shaving: its like a mini man (or daring woman) holiday and gets addictive. When you get the super smooth, moist shave you get that wow feeling.

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Good deal I guess, but I wouldn't skimp on a shaving brush or razor. In the long run, wet shaving this way is still going to be way cheaper since the blade cost is going to be so low.

I love my Shavemac Finest.

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Badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, badgers, SNAKE!

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@katanaryda: Apples and Oranges. You are in the minority of wet shavers who prefer boar over badger. That does not make this "overpriced garbage."

You think it is overpriced? Nice things cost more than cheap things. Please compare it to similar brushes. This brush has a 21mm best badger knot with a wood handle.

Life isn't only about getting the job done for the cheapest price. Many people are willing to spend a little more for something they feel is nicer. I like Honeycrisp apples; I could save money and buy Red Delicious but I'm willing to pay more for something that tastes better. Cars are the same. A $15,000 car does not make all $20,000 cars overpriced. Brushes are no different. A $10 Omega will do the job but there are other options out there.

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@rsnyc: I do both. I can get a closer shave with a straight, but it takes much longer and when you cut yourself, you really cut yourself. I use a DE during the week, but switch up to a straight on weekends/days off when I can take it slow and enjoy it.

Double edge shaving is much much easier with much lower risk.

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Boar hair brushes are definitely better than synthetic, but not NEARLY as good as badger. Boar hair brushes just can't hold water or heat like badger can, which makes the lathers worked up by badger hair brushes far superior. Check any shaving enthusiast's forum, no one agrees boar is better.

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Where do you get a handle for the razors?
Thinking about trying this rather than the disposables...

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@thormj: Some of the best prices on safety razors (the handle) are just on Amazon. There are two main types. Butterfly and 3 Piece. Both use the same blades. Butterfly razor's have jaws that open up to accept the razor blade. 3 Piece razors have a 2 part head that seperates when unscrewed from the handle. You set the razor blade between the two pieces and screw everything back together.

A Parker or a Merkur would be a good entry point. I have two Merkurs 34s and Parker 48 clone and I prefer the shape of the Parker over the Merkurs for daily shaving my face, and I like the Merkurs for shaving my head. Either one will run you around $30 on Amazon.

I'm a 3-piece man myself, so I'll let someone else recommend a good butterfly razor.

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Best badger hair, lower grade of badger, right next to synthetic and black, made in China too. Pass on this, no thanks. Go with an Omega brush as the other poster suggested, but skip the Derby blades, quality control problem, seems like every 3rd or 4th blade is useless with Derby, look for Personna medical prep blades, but hey try Derby, if they work for you, go for it, cheap price. And yes, boar is inferior but some like the friction and extra lift power of boar. Lord blades are pretty high up there in terms of quality.

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I have seen some good reviews for these brushes and they are probably worth this price. I wouldn't make any decisions based on a 5 pack of blades not to mention I have tried all the different Lord blades and find they are all bad for my face.

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@stealthnv: I'll second the tweezerman brush, although I use Col. Conk bay rum bar soap and follow up with some Thayer's Witch Hazel.

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Shave like a man with a troll doll.

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Thumbs up on cremo added to your soap for that little extra something. My soap is packed into a little bowl so I take the cremo tube when I travel by itself and it still works fine.

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im new to manly shaving. are safety razors much better than straight folding razors?

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@katanaryda: I'm not going to continue going back and forth with you. You and I disagree and I'm willing to leave it at that.

Citation needed? Its called Badger and Blade, not Boar and Blade... :)

@rsync: katanaryda and brambleheart are spot on with their comparison of straight versus safety. Like brambleheart I have a nice straight that I use occassionally, but for daily use it is the safety all the way for me.

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@javyn: Actually there are those who favor boar hair, it has extra lifting scrubbing, raises hair on face a bit better. Boar works better with solid type shaving soaps than cream to create a lather, where as a good badger will work good with soap or cream. It's not which one is better, it's a preference among shavers what they prefer.

Hey some would even prefer Frank Shave brushes, with even a questionable wooden handle, and a knot that looks questionable in grade and quality. Want to see similar grade badger size knots and quality, look at the finest knots on the The Golden Nib site, which is a lower grade than the Frank best grade sold here, and the best, in 20-22mm sizes on the TGN, and compare them to the knot on the Frank brush sold here, and judge for yourself. http://thegoldennib.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9_43

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@mangledmess: How do you figure these are closer to the finest knots on TGN? The shape of these is similar to the shape of the finest knots, but the quality grade of the hair refers to the quality of the hair, not the shape of the brush. The color banding is clearly best, not finest.

And would you care to elaborate on what exactly makes the wooden handle "questionable?"

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@mangledmess: Are you sure it's people who prefer a boar hair? Or more like people who already have a collection of brushes of all kinds and just wanted to have/try a boar hair among the others? ;)

I have used boar and badger from pure to silvertip grades. Boar is crap heh. If you have tough whiskers or prefer a stiffer brush, there is Pure grade badger, lowest of the badgers, but scrubby and prickly and stiff for those with tough beards and STILL retains heat and water way better than boar.

I had an Omega boar (bristles started falling out, bending, breaking, and the thing was nasty to begin with), and have a Shavemac Pure grade, Finest, and the "Shavemyface 2" brush from 2006, a Shavemac 23mm silvertip. The Finest is my favorite and was my go-to brush, but the Pure and SMF II are good to use for a change, especially that luxurious silvertip heh.

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Anyway I make all these comments here, but I haven't shaved in 1 year because I have a beard now ROFL

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@shavelikeaman: "You are in the minority of wet shavers who prefer boar over badger."

citation needed.

Do you even Badger & Blade?

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@shavelikeaman: I disagree. You're simply trying to push your own overpriced garbage to make a profit. Besides, o have a $90 Simpson's best badger brush that never gets used. I use my $15 omega boar daily.