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In before the "this isn't a deal" comment. ;P

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hey look you got a pic added. awesome!

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There is not an industrialized country in the world who treats their veterans as shamefully as we in the U.S. have for the last five decades. Not one.

And it doesn't seem to matter which of the idiotic parties is in control of the government, to the vets it's all the same - lots of talk about "supporting the troops", then when they get home it's "Screw you, you've served your purpose, now disappear, would you? Now you're just another expense, and a reminder of the wars."

All that money spent on the military ($650 billion in the current budget), and the people who do the actual fighting and don't die for you come home to commit suicide or live on the streets in large numbers because there's just no money to help them.

Just shameful.

Dig into your pockets and contribute. It takes more than talk.

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Though I am suspecious of donating to something someone named "prosperouscheat" posted... but...

@kirika: consider the fact you have the freedom to say that as what makes this deal such a deal... You don't have to donate if you don't want to (another freedom covered by this awesome deal), but I think our troops deserve some appreciation... All of them, especially those who laid their life down or put their life on the line for us and our country, or made other sacrafices to include their sanity. You know what its like to be at war? The stresses... to see you're friends and comrads being killed around you... Being shot at constantly or always paranoid the next thing you pass is some I.E.D... If you think it's no big deal go take up arms and protect yourself on the frontlines.

Appreciating our troops doesn't mean you have to support the war or our politicians... Regardless your views, our troops are out there making sacrafices, even if it is time away from faimly!

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@blue11: I agree entirely. the U.S. sucks at taking care of their troops. I speak from experience. I am a disabled Vet, discharged medically (Honorably) but because I took a sign on bonus and didn't satisfy my entire contracted term of service (as I wanted to and tried and fought to do) they made me reimburse them for the prorated amount of the bonus. Mind you, THEY DISCHARGED ME!!! They breached the contract not I. I had no control in the matter. and since then it's been a constant fight with the V.A. for everything especially the Montgomery G.I. Bill, which as been a nightmare every step of the way for me. They owe me $1402.23 that I haven't been paid, and when you consider I earned it, and PAID FOR IT (by paying $100 a month for the 1st 12 months of my service). It is shameful indeed.

And to those who are against the war. Please keep in mind the troops have no choice in the matter. War or jail. Many troops are against the war too. But this is what signing up implied.

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@bmseaton: I think you misunderstood @kirika's comment. There's a loon that spends his time telling us all that certain deals aren't deals, often because it's a regular price, and without regard to the fact that somethings are deals for reasons other than price.

This one made me sad before the picture was added, and makes me even sadder now.

I also sympathize with you, and those like you. I'm glad to live where I do, and see that even though the VA sucks as much here as they do anywhere else, that there's still the community support and care that you don't see in many other areas. I would hope that tomorrow, people will take a moment out of their day to remember all those who've made the final sacrifice.

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@shrdlu: Perhaps I did misunderstand then in that case... I apologize.

However I still think it is a deal considering the sacrafices that are made to keep the freedoms we have. Its not your traditional deal like a discounted item or something, but its a worthy cause and all the donations in the world would never amount the same as the sacrafices made...

But I get your point and agree with you in your context.

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I donated to them a while back and I also offered my volunteered service as a neuropsychologist and I was immediately turned down, they told me they needed funds and not service.... I was disappointed....

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Our country is going down the tubes anyway so quit all the bashing.End this thread

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@kirika: They get their donation doubled so I think even they won't claim this is not a deal :)

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@bmseaton: My name comes from rule 31 of "The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries" - "Only cheaters prosper" and I'm sure it does count against me sometimes (I do have a good rep on here though :)
But I'm not looking to cheat here - too many vets need help and Not Alone seems like they are doing good things to meet that need (I didn't even use my referral code to get the current sign-up bonus).

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@blue11: I can think of several countries that treat their veterens with shameful disregard. The problem is - WE'RE THE UNITED STATES! We should treat all veterens with dignity and respect.

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Yeah, I wasn't complaining about this in the slightest, I was merely saying that I expected someone to come in a b!tch about it being posted. I know that the US doesn't do anywhere near enough to take care of our vets. Thanks to Shrdlu for realizing that I'm not evil. ^_^

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@carc: Most service men and women don't volunteer for war! The yucks in DC start the wars. You need to go to Amazon's political forums where you'll fit in just fine! This is a site to HELP the veterans with problems, so stop spewing your crap here!!

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I love kneejerk jingoism as much as the next ignorant flagbeater, but carc is quoting a song, not simply ranting. You can argue that it's rude to post antiwar song lyrics in a thread about Memorial Day(Preferably to a mirror, or your cat, rather than here on Woot) but it'd be nice if you left out non sequiturs and fallacies, such as "Soldiers died to protect free speech" --not in over 200 years, they haven't-- or "Soldiers didn't agree to fight in a war when they signed up for the armed forces".

Anyway, I think this deal is pretty rude in itself, if all donations made on just a Sunday will be matched up to 350,000. So far today, less than 2500 people have donated, which is at best getting a $60,000 donation by the anonymous donor, and more likely in the $15,000 range. Considering they're willing to pay up to $350K, I don't see this helping as much as they could on their own. If the goal is to motivate others to donate, a cutoff time of Friday would be more generous

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@stark: re "Soldiers died to protect free speech - not in 200 years"

I imagine that in addition to being coldly or idealistically non-interventionist, you also have a narrow government-focused definition of censorship that excludes threats of violence from militant so-called "Islamists":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatwas#Fatwas_promoting_violence_against_a_particular_individual

A concrete example of how wrong you are: the Taliban have killed teachers who dared to teach girls. There are areas of Afghanistan where schools are operating because of NATO.

Sure, we're not there just because of the Taliban's effect on the locals, but it's part of the reason why the war has had enough domestic support to be possible. Claiming otherwise is like claiming the US Civil War would have happened without the abolitionist movement.

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There have been no attempts by outside forces to restrict the First Amendment in any way. There have been countless domestic attempts to restrict it. There is simply no credible foreign threat to our right to free speech, nor has there ever been. Muslims issuing threats to Americans that they disagree with is much less effective in attacking our First Amendment as China restricting Google results in China. In fact, there's only one American on that list to begin with, and not a very patriotic one at that. If you think Fatwas are credible threats against free speech, you may want to review how many Pokemon games have been released since the Fatwa was issued against Pikachu and his friends.

I would argue that rather than I having a narrow view of censorship, you have a far too liberal view of it. Attacks against the idea of free speech do not affect me unless they are written into law, or dictated by an internal agency(such as the FCC). As has very often been the case.

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Wish world peace. No war, and no one go to war...

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@stark: $25804 donated with 2.5 hours to go - click buy and it shows the breakdown of how many donations at each level. The money donated by just the grouponers will cover over 1000 hours of counseling or over 2000 weeks of group therapy. Who's to say the match donor won't donate the balance of the $350K on their own anyway if they'd already marked it for donation.
Yes more time would be better. Tell that to Groupon G-Team - they make the rules.

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Jingoism aside, I think most Americans, doves or hawks or in between, want our troops to have good mental healthcare. And it is shameful that that isn't always provided.
I do however believe in being cautious about where I donate my cash, as another atrocity is that our vets are an oft exploited cause and do not always get the benefit of monies raised in their name.
I do not mean to disparage this fundraiser specifically, just make a general observation that "time is of the essence" is often the hallmark of a scam, so any urgency attached to such a plea makes me slow down and become more cautious.
The first question I ask when solicited by phone for a donation is for a written breakdown of where the cash goes. 9 out of 10 calls they hang up on me! Saves time and money.

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Hmmm, time is up but it looks like you can still buy and it says Expires August 30 so maybe the 1 day thing is just how long Groupon features a particular non-profit/charity.

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NotAlone.com is owned by LittlePlanetLearning.com apparently (http://notalone.littleplanetlearning.com/ points to the same page as notalone.com)

This company seems to do computer-based training. While this is a worthwhile cause, it looks as though this program may not be the most effective way to get veterans direct help (under the Terms and Conditions, they state they do not provide medical services).

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Thanks to all the service people out there for there service to our country.

I think the mental help side is always given very short shift. Welcome home to all of you.

I also still got my money matched but who cares you guys?

Wish this thread had not gone so crazy. I think it was a bit ugly.

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@prosperouscheat: Actually, I figured it very likely that whoever it was would donate the full amount anyway. I just thought it was a bad idea to end the cut off after just one day. People are definitely more likely to donate if they think they're donations are being matched, but not everybody is looking at this sort of thing over the weekend.

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Hi - I was about to donate to this offer but between the fact that I'd have to sign up for Groupon and the concern other commenters have expressed I'd like ot find some other place to help our woefully-neglected vets. Do any of the vets on this thread know of a place we can be sure our donations will do you some real good?

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@prestomeco: the USO is a good place to start. they provide a lot of services to all branches. and they may be able to help if you specifically want to donate to other organizations with specific causes such as mental health care.
http://www.uso.org/

they're about as legit as can be

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This deal is still good. Got it at 1:30 pm on Memorial Day. Thanks whoever posted this it didn't come up on Dallas Groupon deals.

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donated 25$. bless the soldiers.

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Thanks for posting this. I would not have noticed this charity otherwise.

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@prestomeco: Disabled American Veterans or http://www.dav.org/ is a great organization. My friend (Navy vet) was a quadriplegic (in wheelchair limited use of one arm) that organization really helped him in ways normal people would never think of.

They were started to help the Vietnam Vets in wheelchairs ect. My Wife has given to them for 33 years. They are top notch.

Thanks for giving, you are great to ask for an alternative.

My Jewish stepmother would say you are a mensch (sp)!

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I think I'll bite.

Partially because I just read about Chancellor Keesling last night: http://articles.cnn.com/2009-11-27/us/soldier.suicide_1_condolence-letter-suicide-victim-white-house?_s=PM:US

And mostly because I'll always remember the suicide "attempters" I meet, and one of them happened to be a very charming and polite guy in the military. Despite how much he said he liked his job, I couldn't help but think how the "employers" of the last years of his life can turn their cheeks enough to let someone like him get to the point of suicide.

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@nangiggles: I looked, but didn't see anyone reply to your post. Speaking as a veteran (1984-1994), thank you for offering your services - even if they didn't take you up on it - thank you all the same.

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also http://www.theveteranssite.com one click and the sponsor money provides meals and other stuff. there are other tabs for other causes along the top of the page. i signed up for their daily emails and click through each one

veteran 1997-2001 here :)