dealshp pavilion h8 desktop computer with 10gb ram and…

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Isn't H8 the same as hate? Doesn't sound like such a great name....

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actually a nice prebuilt comp. 10gigs of ram is kind of overkill though. I'd rather have 6-8gigs of higher quality ram.

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Dunno that 10 gigs of RAM is overkill. I have 8 gigs and with nothing open but web browsers, the RAM is 88% "in use." Of course, I have about 250 tabs open across 4 browsers...

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@jsimsace: Hate isn't necessarily bad. In fact, in certain situations it is healthy and necessary. What I H8 is people who H8 on H8 for no logical reason. I find that these people act on manipulation and hysterics.

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I have two monitors with a DVI-D with HDCP and a VGA connection. Would I be correct in assuming that I could host dual monitors for this computer with just a HDMI to DVI cable? Or did I just divulge my technical ignorance for the whole world wide web to see?

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@bschoep: Yep, this does support dual monitors right out of the box.

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This is great! Why buy a new HP that will inevitably fail when you can buy a refurbished one that will fail for only half the price. Sounds like a deal to me.

Anybody wonder why Woot! has a dedicated site for HP refurbs??

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While ymmv, I had a refurbed HP that lasted me a solid 4.5 years until a few months ago before kicking the bucket (I think it knew I'd been looking for a replacement).
If you're disinclined to build your own, these come with all the bells and whistles that an average PC user needs (aside from higher end gaming graphics/power supply). If you're worried about it failing, even with adding the $75 extended warranty it's still a pretty solid deal.

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This is truly a marketing scheme. HP puts 10GB ram in this machine- why? They use 4+4+2. Basically this means the dual channel memory bandwidth will not operate in that configuration. Since RAM is so cheap, everyone uses the 4gb RAM- hence they have a stockpile of 2gb modules that are practically worthless. So their idea is to add a 2gb module in addition for a total of 10gb purely for the marketing- when in fact, it could actually slow the performance vs only having 8gb (2 x 4gb) because with the 8GB you still have the advantage of dual channel- and it's rare that anyone needs even 8GB ram capacity, let alone 10GB. Same is true with the 1.5GB drive- most people don't even bother to notice that it is a 5400rpm drive. This is another example of HP awkward configuration based on leftover parts and marketing schemes.

*Notice that even though the specs say 4 RAM slots occupied, if you look at the picture you can clearly see that only 3 slots are occupied- 4+4+2 (no dual chn), not 4+4+1+1

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@gak0090: So pull out the 2GB module or buy another paired one for $10-15. I'm not sure why they wouldn't just throw one more in so it would run at full speed... probably some bean counter who wouldn't know a RAM from a bull though. Maybe they have even more 1GB sticks laying around and the picture is just inaccurate. Either way, it definitely isn't clear (although there is only one red-ish colored stick its not a side-picture).

Most people don't need a 7200RPM drive. 5400RPM will be easier on their power bill, strained weak OEM power supply, and for a 1.5 --TB-- drive most people in this class would rather have the space than another 5-10MB/s to play their MP3s that aren't using .5MB/s of the 90MB/s that it will already do.

Weird design, cheap parts - what do you expect when you are paying this much for that many in specs?

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Below is a link to the PDF data sheet for this model that properly defines the memory configuration as 4gb+4gb+2gb with 1 slot open. In this configuration dual channel memory will not work. You will either need to remove the one 2gb memory module (which make the most sense), or buy an additional 2gb module for the free slot

[url]http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=hpe-h8-1214%203%20ram%20slots&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CFkQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.webcollage.net%2Frlfp%2Fwc%2Flive%2Fmodule%2Fhpeasset%2Fedge.services.sellpath.com%2FRenderer%2Fhttp%40co%2Fc242173.r73.cf3.rackcdn.com%2FHP-2217078-HP4f58f0c7ed699.pdf%2Findex.pdf%3Faction%3Ddownload-resource%26a%3Dd%26caption%3DDatasheet&ei=iz0tUPW7IITBygHM5IDICQ&usg=AFQjCNFEAh2DugJsoFF-_-DJlDiTp3_eGA[/url]

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Consumer Reports has this as a best buy in their fullsize desktop section. For reliability, HP is rated second to Apple, with a 10% failure rate, and ahead of Dell and Gateway.

After looking around the net, it seems there is a higher fail rate for their lower end systems, but this one is actually considered high end. I'm in for 1 as a Media PC for the living room.

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@fostytou:
Regarding performance 7200 RPM vs 5400 RPM

Samsung 1.5TB 5400rpm passmark 544:
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=SAMSUNG+HD154UI

Seagate 1TB 7200 RPM passmark 1166:
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/hdd.php?hdd=Seagate+ST1000DM003-9YN162

Regarding power consumption
7200 rpm drive use about 9 watts of power vs 5watts of power for 5400rpm- hence strain on power supply is almost negligible:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/enterprise-hard-drive-charts-2010/Power-Consumption-at-Maximum-Throughput,2174.html

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Anyone know if these refurbs are eligible for the Windows 8 discounted upgrade program?

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Any upgrade is $39.99 from any previous OS (at least since XP).

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@fostytou: I was referring to the current Windows 8 promotion for a $14.99 upgrade.

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@abonet: Have you used windows 8? Unless you have a touchscreen it does not offer any advantage over windows 7 on a desktop. In fact- it is way more annoying to use on a desktop. Download the the release preview and play with it, you'll see what I mean.

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Wonder if I can switch out the Power supply or if it is a little to big?

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@blitz121: according to HP the power supply is an ATX form factor, which basically means it's a standard power supply. Why are you concerned about switching out the PS? Are you going to add a graphics card?

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@gak0090: so what is your suggestion to buy???

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I usually don't look too closely at the HP refurb deals on woot because I have acces to buy new equipment at the employee purchase plan price, which is generally very good. This model isn't available in this exact configuration as a new item, but what I configured to be as close a possible totaled up to $744.

Granted, that's with a new computer warranty, 0.3 GHz faster processor and a 7200 RPM HDD, but if you add in a $75 fair trade warranty you still save almost $200. Seems like a very good deal to me.

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Now I just hope it ships sometime before September...

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@gravityhr: fuk that it's been 5 days already and they haven't shipped it out!

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Just got mine. I think they shipped so fast they didn't bother with tracking. Thanks Woooot!

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Did they at least box it covertly or does it say HP all over it? I live in an apartment so without tacking mine can easily walk away if it says "steal me" all over it. At least with tracking I can grab it once it's dropped off :-(

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It has the HP logo. It's already effed. Won't boot into Windows.