dealshp pavilion elite quad core desktop w/1tb hdd…

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This was offered for the same price about a month ago. Fantastic machine for the money. Only downside I found is that for some reason the hard drive seems to get overwhelmed and applications take a long time to load. Once that all settles down, it runs fine. But either Windows 7, HP, or the combination of the two add enough bloatware to make it run a bit slow. After the drive settles down a bit, the computer is great.

Haven't tried it for games yet. I'm using it as a glorified blu-ray player against my HDTV.

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First of all, it's a refurbished.

512MB ATI Radeon HD 5450 can take SCII or cod but only in low/medium settings. Take that as a reference for your own games.

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For the price this is an excellent computer. I got one the last time it was offered and I have been very happy with it. It was easy to set up and has run like a dream.

Yes the video card is under powered for upper end gaming. But I am running a lot of games without any trouble at all. ONly First person shooters will run sluggish on this computer.

Add a decent power supply for around 30 bucks, and 120 to 150 for a decent video card and you have a good gaming system or a good video editing machine that didnt break the bank

the bloat were was a bit of a drag to clean off, but for the price, I can take a couple of hours to do that..

Great buy/

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Haha, I like how with the powerful hard drive, loads of RAM, and a blu-ray disc drive, they still give you a corded mouse and keyboard... Really?

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@animuson: It might post big numbers, but it still has relatively old parts. However, this computer is still a great deal! If it weren't refurbished I'd jump on it, but I recently bought a quad core desktop and would rather upgrade it instead of throwing money at a semi-new one.

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@animuson: Why would you want a cordless???
Just more batteries to go dead and stop you from using the computer.
And in my experience they are less than reliable using both at the same time.

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Got one the last time they had them...been battling with HP for a while...turns out that their Windows 7 image "limits the machine to the installed drive"...which means that I can't add another drive for any reason without buying and installing a full version of 7. Beware...

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@jfltt: Errrrm, That is not correct. You can add drives to the system and the Windows/7 version is a full OEM version. It sounds like you were trying to install your Windows/7 on a different computer, which is prohibited by the OEM license.

I bought this rig last month for a media PC and it works well, but I have noticed the hard drive is pretty darn slow and tends to lag. I have a couple other 1TB drives I am going to put in the rig and I will probably move the OS over to one of the faster drives.

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No mention of how fast (RPM) of the hard disk?

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@torrin: I thought so too, but HP's Case Manager (won't tell you how many resources in India it took to get to him) was very specific. I'm not a newbie and I was very surprised by his answer...but it was a simple move of a newish 1tb SATA drive from one Pavilion to another - never touched the drive that HP sent with the new machine. Machine boots and runs well without the second internal drive, but doesn't complete the boot sequence once it's installed, no matter what SATA connection is used on the motherboard.

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@md99: the additional drive is a 7200 rpm SATA drive - another problem, since HP's supplied drive is a 5400 rpm drive.

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jfltt: Did you have an OS installed on the drive that you put into the PC? Sometimes that will screw things up if the PC doesn't know which drive to boot from because of conflicting MBRs.

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@jfltt: Try with a wiped 2nd drive. That sounds more like something (either the BIOS or windows bootloader) getting confused about where to boot off of, not a windows license limitation