If you can live without optical (really, when was the last time you used you're optical drive) then the D420 is a perfect laptop to get! I am kind of shocked to see a $179.99 price tag on it, especially with an operating system. Much better than I see at the Dell DFS website. I like cheap and light business laptops - they hold up much better than their consumer brothers. For the stats: D420 has a Core 2 Duo 1.2GHz CPU (low power); 1GB RAM; 60GB hard drive; 802.11g Wi-Fi; 12.1" 1280x800 screen; Windows XP Pro; 9-cell battery; and it all weighs in at a little over 3 pounds. Keep in mind (again) that there is NO OPTICAL however. It says that it is a Grade A refurbished. I happened to see it while rooting around on the website. Have fun!