dealshp h8 i7 desktop with 12gb ram (refurbished) for…

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This computer has a bajillion of everything! No need to dislike this computer.

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Processor benchmark: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+%40+3.40GHz

Graphics benchmark: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7450

Seems like a good desktop. If you want to game, upgrade the graphics card and the power supply. Also, 16 gb max supported memory on the motherboard seems a bit on the low end imo.

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like a sucker i bought 8GB 1TB (although with GeForce GT 640 and BlueRay) version of this for $884.99

http://sellout.woot.com/offers/hp-quad-core-i7-desktop-w-blu-ray-2

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I don't get these builds. The GPU on the 3770 would perform just as well as a HD 7450 graphics card - even better in some games. Why even bother with the graphics card?

See these 3DMark 11 scores:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_3770K_Ivy_Bridge_GPU/21.html
(7450 is just a repackaged 6450)

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Yea good computer and will preform well. If you want to do some serious gaming then upgrade the PSU and videocard. But the comment about 16gb RAM being max supported isn't right. You will not use that much RAM anytime in the foreseeable future. And Windows 7 x64 Home Premium only supports 16gb anyway

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@crimsonpride88: "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -Bill Gates on the IBM PC's then usable RAM limit of 640KB.

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@ramkum: Good point and I am all too aware of the history of computing. But my point still stands

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haha yea, 12gb is plenty of ram. even 4gb is enough for most people (that's how much I have, and i can play bf3/skyrim/lol/etc. while running spotify, browsing deals, or watching netflix (on my second monitor) at the same time with no problems)

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I bought this last time it was up on August 31st.

It took until two weeks ago to arrive, worked great for a week, and then the motherboard fried. I had to send it back to HP for repairs four days ago, still waiting for it to come back again.

This is the first refurb item I've ever had an issue with, and I'm hoping it's just a fluke because due to my good history with refurbs I didn't get the squaretrade warranty, which may have been a terrible mistake.

So just consider this a warning to get that if you bite, just in case.

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@ramkum:

I agree, the integrated intel HD 4000 graphics are pretty damn good (and the 7450 is pretty horrible for a modern graphics card).

However, HP tries to make a PC that will sell the best to a general consumer; they don't try to make the best PC they can within a certain budget.

They think people will see that this PC has a graphics card with 1gb vram, and will think that's awesome, when really it won't have much affect on performance at all.

Same reason why they don't put in a higher quality power supply, the general consumer doesn't care what the psu is.

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Bought one the last time this was on moofi, before they sold out in a couple hours. Its a great PC for the price. And its true, the PSU and gfx card a substandard to any power user. I swapped in an OCZ 600 watt 80 plus and a gtx 670. Now I play batman arkham city and borderlands 2 on MAXED out settings 1920 x 1080.

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For what it's worth, you could also not upgrade the PSU and simply upgrade to a HD 7750. Significantly better performance than the 7450 and the power draw shouldn't be too high. Not a horrible setup for gaming at around $750.

Though, admittedly, at that price I'd really just recommend building from scratch. You may not get as much RAM or as fast a processor at this price, but the upgrade-ability of a top-to-bottom build is sure to be significantly better.

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I was baffled by this machine--no reviews and a video card that has no evidence on the web. After more digging than I should bother with, this is what I can share:

1. This SKU was made exclusively for Sam's, and is not even available on HP
s website
2. The Radeon HD 7450 is NOT a 7000-series card. It is an OEM-only card, seemingly made for this SKU. The only information for it is buried on the AMD website through a manual search, which reveals a GPU Features Summary. This is turn shows the 7450 is an Evergreen family, Terascale 2 Architecture card--making it a 5000-series card.
3. A 300W Power Supply is really weak, so it will be difficult to swap out that 5000-series graphics with a new one. A new PSU will be a chore to install, note the interior shot on the case and the complete lack of cable management.

The conclusion of all of this? A machine designed to look pretty at Sam's retail, courtesy a pretty i7 club customers will not utilize and a misleading AMD Radeon 7XXX sticker.

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@svrommelvs:
How did you determine the SKU?

This desk to is found at the following HP link:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c03360397

Your conclusion may be right but it is a little spotty to me. Looks like a pretty good deal for a desktop that came out May 2012.

Fred

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Sorry, model number. My business uses SKU and model number interchangeably, and I mixed them up. Whoops! Thanks for finding the HP-page entry. The title omitted the E, and I kept finding information for either the 1234 or 1300 models. My analysis still stands, the 7450 is a 5000-series card and the PSU is under-powered, limiting expansion. RAM that runs at PC3-10600 is odd too, but meh.

As for my opinion, its still a nifty little machine for this price. It'll plug along spreadsheets and other programs designed to take advantage of the i7 in it. The massive hard drive will hold just about every stolen mp3 the kids want to load onto it. Just don't get fooled by the number on the video card. I hate GPU naming conventions, for exactly this reason. Finally, before trying to upgrade, take a long look and decide if you want to enter the small case and figure out what the heck to do with all those PSU cables.

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@ramkum: Just FYI, nobody's ever been able to find where Bill actually said that. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates#Misattributed

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Which replacement PSU of these 2 would be recommended?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153126
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017&Tpk=OCZ%20600w
or would you suggest something different?

Also, can you suggest some decent replacement video cards. Not looking to game on this. Mainly HD video editing and playback as well as blu-ray ripping (I will be adding a blu-ray drive). Thanks!

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@alanhwoot: I am aware that he vehemently denies it. Even if it really is a misquote, it has been quoted so many countless times that its fun to use it to show how wrong such predictions can be, if and when made.

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@teenracer6: The intel Z75 chipset on this motherboard actually allows for 32GB max. I've talked to HP about a different motherboard that their site claimed 16GB max when it in fact allowed 32GB. The reason HP claims 16GB max is twofold, first Windows 7 Home Premium only recognizes 16GB ram & second some of their i7 configurations use a liquid cooler for the processor that blocks some of the available RAM slots. It's just simpler for HP to say 16GB max rather than explain which configurations allow for more.

The main reason I can see for the AMD HD7450 video card is to give an HDMI connection option.

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Can someone tell me what model the motherboard is.

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I doubt this will ever get seen, but is anyone else still waiting on theirs to ship?

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Mine still says awaiting shipment also.

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@grumlenz: It's nice to know that I'm not the only one.. Hopefully we'll get it soon.

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I just got my shipping confirmation this morning. I'm looking forward to my new computer.

Edit: After checking my confirmation number I found that my computer shipped 4 days ago and is scheduled to be delivered today. Sweeet.